Oh? And you know this how? This is all just your opinion hoss. Nothing more. You don't like them, and that's fine, but it is very presumptive to believe that a majority of guys care as much as you about some of them. And it is ironic that you try to throw the money thing in my face since it was you in the last 2 hours that has been talking about being bought off of your trips.

Naaaaaaah.

That's not a money thing.

Not at all.:rolleyes:

No, its a QOL thing.

lets talk money
DALPA has moved 7% lower on pay rates and the company has moved up 1%?

DALPA position 22 Dec 2015 22% effective January 1, 2016 7% effective January 1, 2017 7% effective January 1, 2018 DALPA position 10 Sep 2016 19% on 1/1/16 5% on 1/1/17 5% on 1/1/18 Company's position 08 Jul 2016 15.5 % DOS 3% on 1/1/17 3% on 1/1/18 3% on 1/1/19 Company's position 10 Sep 2016 16.5% on DOS 3% on 1/1/17 3% on 1/1/18 3% on 1/1/19 So, DALPA has moved 7% lower on pay rates and the company has moved up 1%?

Yeah, sure it is. OK then change the AIP to read that if you are bought off you don't get paid for anything extra if you pick up a trip over the days of the LCA trip. Still a QOL thing?

Sick AIP was put up for tweaking. The 12 (if you want to simplify it so much to that) are ok with the AIPs generally. So are most others as long as the company pays up in pay and QOL gains otherwise.

Now that Bond would be giving up work rules for pay. We are not going to give up QOL options for pay.
I get bought off and but a GS in or a just stay home. That is up to me.
QOL. Get it.
The last TA DALPA tried to sell us on the LCA concession that it would only affect 1% of the pilot group. I set 50% in base and can get bougth off all the time.

So it IS about the money. Got it.

See

On these boards, it is NOT about the money.

It is about the QOL.

Take the money out

And it suddenly becomes money vs QOL

Got it?

We are going to get the money. Its how you get you do it. We don't need to give up the farm to do it. Get it.
You leave in 5 years or sooner. The rest of us will be here with the new crappy work rules. Then the economy goes and we lose the pay and are stuck with the .... work rules. Get it.
Take care Bond, I'm going to go and enjoy my day while Im on SC.

With full retro and 3B4, the pilots will get paid one way or another. No need to sell any work rules or scope, or profit sharing. 3B4 is on payrates, as long as the line on profit sharing is held, we win.

The company will have huge issues hiring eventually the longer this drags out.