View Poll Results: Would you vote to ratify the hypothetical TA?
Yes, would vote to ratify
78
27.96%
No, would vote not to ratify
201
72.04%
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Possible TA?
09-19-2016, 03:58 AM
#92
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Joined APC: Dec 2013
Posts: 217
Originally Posted by Tanker1497
...Ask an SWA pilot what they earn for 12 days of work? Spoiler alert, about 105 hrs of pay.
09-19-2016, 04:13 AM
#94
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Joined APC: Oct 2009
Posts: 3,108
Originally Posted by TED74
.02% isn't even one whole pilot. I wouldn't trust that poll either!
Hundreds responded on chit chat. Over 90% No.
74% No here. This forum is by far the most management friendly. The poll was a trial balloon for lower and the truth is out.
The handful of yes are the tiny little Curly club.
09-19-2016, 04:20 AM
#95
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Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 4,909
Originally Posted by gzsg
How many pilots does Comstock poll?
Hundreds responded on chit chat. Over 90% No.
74% No here. This forum is by far the most management friendly. The poll was a trial balloon for lower and the truth is out.
The handful of yes are the tiny little Curly club.
Hundreds responded on chit chat. Over 90% No.
74% No here. This forum is by far the most management friendly. The poll was a trial balloon for lower and the truth is out.
The handful of yes are the tiny little Curly club.
09-19-2016, 04:28 AM
#96
Bus driver
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Posts: 830
Originally Posted by Dharma
Wow, that's 8+45 per day. Do they need to augment with a relief pilot? They must have a bunk too right? Or at least a rest seat...
09-19-2016, 05:24 AM
#97
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Joined APC: Feb 2013
Posts: 133
Originally Posted by gzsg
How many pilots does Comstock poll?
Hundreds responded on chit chat. Over 90% No.
74% No here. This forum is by far the most management friendly. The poll was a trial balloon for lower and the truth is out.
The handful of yes are the tiny little Curly club.
Hundreds responded on chit chat. Over 90% No.
74% No here. This forum is by far the most management friendly. The poll was a trial balloon for lower and the truth is out.
The handful of yes are the tiny little Curly club.
I think the no vote % would be higher. but the yes crowd are making new accounts every day!
09-19-2016, 06:03 AM
#98
Super Moderator
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: DAL 330
Posts: 6,868
Originally Posted by Tanker1497
To convert Trip For Pay (TFP) to hourly multiply TFP by 1.1394. So 12 year Captain pay of $189.78 TFP x 1.1394= $216.23/hour.
This was info from our JS'er, he works 4 three day trips each month.
This was info from our JS'er, he works 4 three day trips each month.
Tanker,
The above is correct to convert TFP to an "hourly" rate but to convert total TFP you have to divide.
The key is that a trip is approximately 55 minutes of work. So an hour of work pays more. XXX amount of trips per month is less than XXX hours.
In your example, copied here you use 105 Trips as your example:
"Ask an SWA pilot what they earn for 12 days of work? Spoiler alert, about 105 hrs of pay"So dividing 105 tfp by 1.13 you get about 92 hours of pay.
The whole TFP issue is very confusing depending on which conversion you are doing but one thing is absolutely clear - We at DAL domestically can get no where near 92 hours in 12 days.
Scoop
09-19-2016, 06:08 AM
#99
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: DAL 330
Posts: 6,868
Originally Posted by nohat
I think the no vote % would be higher. but the yes crowd are making new accounts every day!
I am very seriously considering pulling down the poll or at least unsticking it. How is a poll that is open to all of APC valid for DAL Pilots?
This poll is probably not indicative of anything. If you want to see the DAL Pilot only results go to Chit Chat, but that poll will suffer from an extreme selection bias.
The Chit Chat poll is running about 92-8 against. But about the only thing that poll is good for is to compare it to the Chit Chat poll during the TA. If I recall correctly that poll ran about 98-2 against.
Scoop
09-19-2016, 06:17 AM
#100
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Joined APC: Nov 2011
Posts: 4,504
Originally Posted by Delta2heavy
On chit chat that poll represents 0.02 percent of our 13400 plus pilot group
That's why I'm curious to see what the pilot group as a whole thinks. A lot of people probably don't even know what chit chat is. We need a full online survey that all of us can participate in
That's why I'm curious to see what the pilot group as a whole thinks. A lot of people probably don't even know what chit chat is. We need a full online survey that all of us can participate in
