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Old 09-17-2016, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by poostain View Post
Good grief dude I hope your joking.
I'm not agreeing with the OP but LM and RH did an enormous amount of good for the Delta pilots, especially during and after BK and during contract negotiations. You could argue LM LED the successful fight to defeat Doug Parker's USAir run on Delta during BK that would have destroyed Delta pilots careers. RH is probably the leading pilot expert on contractual language and SLI issues. I for one am grateful for their past work on my behalf.
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Old 09-17-2016, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Gomerglideslope View Post
What is it with all the jack ass personal attacks on people with different points of view. Whoever disagrees is a Moakist, a sell out or a surrender monkey... Can't you simply discuss the merits?
No, I don't think that's possible. Guys "talk" on here like they're in fifth grade. Sheesh.
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Old 09-17-2016, 07:53 PM
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This forum use to be very one sided with management wannabees. Now it is probably 80% reasonables (fdalDPA/fnwaDPA/nonDPArestorationists) and 20% sellouts/management trolls.
fixed it for you
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Old 09-18-2016, 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Gomerglideslope View Post
What is it with all the jack ass personal attacks on people with different points of view. Whoever disagrees is a Moakist, a sell out or a surrender monkey... Can't you simply discuss the merits?
We tried discussing......remember Donetelli and his PEB rant. The Moak regime and his entourage were not interested in any type of discussion. Moak and RH made sure it was their way or no way. Us line puke were not capable of critical thinking. Remember black swans....TVM...PEB.
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Old 09-18-2016, 03:32 AM
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Valar Morghulis. An obscure TV show reference as a screen name. Sounds like SOP from the "smartest guys in the room."

The usual suspects and their stooges are busy running the "Trial Balloon Envelope Malfunction" checklist.

Trip7 has nominated himself to climb onto the burner while it's lit. A noble self-immolation, the burning of his carefully cultivated pledge not to be a shill for his bossmen this time around.

But seriously. This attempt to manage our expectations is a classic moakist/management tag team tactic we've seen thousands of times. Yawn.

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Old 09-18-2016, 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by msprj2 View Post
Only requirement to vote is forum member. I would guess less than half are DAL pilots.
The duplicated poll over at chitchat is an even more stark downvote. All are Delta pilots there. What does that tell you about this poll's voters?
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Old 09-18-2016, 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 404yxl View Post
fixed it for you
It is fortunate for us you are such an open minded person willing to listen to all viewpoints....the attributes of a good Captain. Obviously you have come to your conclusion based on your vast experience and time in the seat here at APC.
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Old 09-18-2016, 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by gzsg View Post
I have no TVM fear. The profits Delta is making and Bastian's $4 Billion in annual returns to the shareholders make full Retro pay mandatory no matter how long this takes.

Any TA without it will fail 80% No.
After the end of this month passes with no deal, the only way we will get retro is if the pay increases are 3/3/3/18. Winner. Congrats DPA shill.
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Old 09-18-2016, 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by tmontana View Post
The duplicated poll over at chitchat is an even more stark downvote. All are Delta pilots there. What does that tell you about this poll's voters?
It's called self selection bias. It's a real thing.
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Old 09-18-2016, 07:08 AM
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After the end of this month passes with no deal, the only way we will get retro is if the pay increases are 3/3/3/18. Winner. Congrats DPA shill.
Surrender.......
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