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Possible TA?
09-17-2016, 08:57 AM
#32
Da Hudge
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: Poodle Whisperer
Posts: 17,473
Originally Posted by Tanker1497
It is 80...vacation without credit towards LCW isn't really vacation, just pay.
"Well, they paid you for it, right?"
"yes, but it's killing me working this hard, too. There comes a point where the money doesn't matter."
"oh."
09-17-2016, 09:03 AM
#33
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Posts: 5,414
Originally Posted by gopher3
Spoken like a true Moakist. His doctrine is alive and well. Work more....make more......paid for by gutting QOL. Cost neutral for the company. Ed and Steve thank you for your generous give back on efficiency and productivity. They already have your pension. Next go around it will certainly be the Profit Sharing. All while making billions of dollars for the forseeable future and with a massive training crunch coming. We have leverage that was only dreamed of by airline pilots of the past and we have found a way to concede and pizz it away.
They can have my Pension. The Pension and the DC 401k are the same except risk is shifted to different places. I'd rather take the risk and the money in my own name. Compound interest is wonderful.
I don't follow your other gripes. QOL is remaining the same with more options if you want to work more. I don't expect any changes to PS in the new deal.
09-17-2016, 09:03 AM
#34
Bus driver
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Posts: 830
That sums it up perfectly. As hard as we work during non vacation months, it should be noticeably different while on vacation. There are so many little items the company has made a stand on. When taken as a whole, it's harder to swallow. Vacation pay AND credit would have been an opportunity for them to show that they value the job we do every month.
09-17-2016, 09:03 AM
#35
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 4,909
Originally Posted by Trip7
You need to write your rep then to take only COLA increases (3/3/3/3) and focus only on more days off. Or bid RSV FO on 777/330/764. If you're a commuter all bets are off.
We are not going to get more money and more time off in this environment.
The union is shooting for more pay while maintaining same QOL. If you want to work more more options like vacation sellback will be available.
We are not going to get more money and more time off in this environment.
The union is shooting for more pay while maintaining same QOL. If you want to work more more options like vacation sellback will be available.
...And I live in-domicile and will bid wide body FO when I am confident I won't be gone for a week or more at a time.
09-17-2016, 09:05 AM
#36
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: 767A
Posts: 791
Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Bingo. I had a discussion on how I had to work as much in a vacation month as in a regular month with a higher up not long ago.
"Well, they paid you for it, right?"
"yes, but it's killing me working this hard, too. There comes a point where the money doesn't matter."
"oh."
"Well, they paid you for it, right?"
"yes, but it's killing me working this hard, too. There comes a point where the money doesn't matter."
"oh."
09-17-2016, 09:13 AM
#38
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2011
Posts: 4,504
Originally Posted by Trip7
If I had a choice Lee Moak would be MEC Chair or on Strategic Planning Admin with RH. Brilliant long term and analytical thinkers.
They can have my Pension. The Pension and the DC 401k are the same except risk is shifted to different places. I'd rather take the risk and the money in my own name. Compound interest is wonderful.
I don't follow your other gripes. QOL is remaining the same with more options if you want to work more. I don't expect any changes to PS in the new deal.
They can have my Pension. The Pension and the DC 401k are the same except risk is shifted to different places. I'd rather take the risk and the money in my own name. Compound interest is wonderful.
I don't follow your other gripes. QOL is remaining the same with more options if you want to work more. I don't expect any changes to PS in the new deal.
09-17-2016, 09:14 AM
#39
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2015
Posts: 4,116
Originally Posted by Trip7
If I had a choice Lee Moak would be MEC Chair or on Strategic Planning Admin with RH. Brilliant long term and analytical thinkers.
They can have my Pension. The Pension and the DC 401k are the same except risk is shifted to different places. I'd rather take the risk and the money in my own name. Compound interest is wonderful.
I don't follow your other gripes. QOL is remaining the same with more options if you want to work more. I don't expect any changes to PS in the new deal.
They can have my Pension. The Pension and the DC 401k are the same except risk is shifted to different places. I'd rather take the risk and the money in my own name. Compound interest is wonderful.
I don't follow your other gripes. QOL is remaining the same with more options if you want to work more. I don't expect any changes to PS in the new deal.
he has strategically parlayed the dues financed finishing school at national into a personally owned and economically rewarding concern.
of course he gets an 'F' on originality.....since his predecessors had already blazed that trail.
09-17-2016, 09:17 AM
#40
Da Hudge
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: Poodle Whisperer
Posts: 17,473
Originally Posted by Trip7
If I had a choice Lee Moak would be MEC Chair or on Strategic Planning Admin with RH. Brilliant long term and analytical thinkers.
They can have my Pension. The Pension and the DC 401k are the same except risk is shifted to different places. I'd rather take the risk and the money in my own name. Compound interest is wonderful.
I don't follow your other gripes. QOL is remaining the same with more options if you want to work more. I don't expect any changes to PS in the new deal.
They can have my Pension. The Pension and the DC 401k are the same except risk is shifted to different places. I'd rather take the risk and the money in my own name. Compound interest is wonderful.
I don't follow your other gripes. QOL is remaining the same with more options if you want to work more. I don't expect any changes to PS in the new deal.
RH is one of the primary reasons we ended up with a contract that had to be rejected in the first place.
