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Old 10-17-2016 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Moondog
Will someone please explain how the C-100, which holds less pax, will out pay the 717? Don't get it.
It's the same logic applied to (seemingly) all of our payscales. Throw a dart at the dart board, see where it lands. Our pay-for-equipment seriously needs adjustment, from top to bottom
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Old 10-17-2016 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by chuck416
It's the same logic applied to (seemingly) all of our payscales. Throw a dart at the dart board, see where it lands. Our pay-for-equipment seriously needs adjustment, from top to bottom
Three, two, one...go James
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Old 10-18-2016 | 12:15 PM
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Three, two, one...go James
I'm just gonna sit back and enjoy the show.
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Old 10-18-2016 | 12:24 PM
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Old 10-18-2016 | 12:28 PM
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At first glance, here is a theory:

Maybe they're not so random. Seems like some of us are upset that other carriers have a greater proportion of WB flying (not sure if that's fact or myth). Seems like like we invested our negotiating capital in making sure the vast majority of us are paid at/above our peers, in that case. Factor in PS, and it seems that, pound for pound, we're getting a premium vs. the industry.

Has the NC tried to weight it that way, DALMECvolunteer?
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Old 10-18-2016 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
At first glance, here is a theory:

Maybe they're not so random. Seems like some of us are upset that other carriers have a greater proportion of WB flying (not sure if that's fact or myth). Seems like like we invested our negotiating capital in making sure the vast majority of us are paid at/above our peers, in that case. Factor in PS, and it seems that, pound for pound, we're getting a premium vs. the industry.

Has the NC tried to weight it that way, DALMECvolunteer?
Of course they have and will, just like the last TA. I am more inclined to prescribe to that line of thinking when the PS is full defined and the audits are made public for YOY comparison with regard to accounting. But yeah, I agree ,we get industry average pay and great profit sharing. This BTW is the only way we will ever be significantly above the average.

PROFIT SHARING: embrace it, never sell it.

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Old 10-18-2016 | 02:01 PM
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How do you figure it's industry average for NB, from these charts, which I assume are exclusive of PS?

Edit: Actually, it's true for virtually everything but the 7ER for the FedEx/UPS.
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Old 10-18-2016 | 03:14 PM
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Some rates are slightly above and some are slightly below, the overall pay is average. A smaller average gauge fleet requires a higher average rate. We are average.
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Old 10-18-2016 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Moondog
Will someone please explain how the C-100, which holds less pax, will out pay the 717? Don't get it.
MD88/90 pays less than 319/20....explain that too while you are at it.
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Old 10-18-2016 | 04:06 PM
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They way the Delta "me-too" works is a bit convoluted. But, basically we get an across the board raise to match your raise % by the end of our contract in Jan 2019. (i.e. Your 31% - our 24% = 7%). I don't believe we get an actual raise Jan 2019, we have to negotiate that as our next contract.

As far as the 767-400 and 787 rates being the same as 747/777 rates, that was due to an ultimatum by the CAL MEC during joint negotiations that they would walk away if that was not implemented.
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