Seems like the concept was explained in this thread already.

 

Looks like you're not getting an answer on this one, Dodo.
Maybe you'll get em next contract.

 

And yet there was apparently no support for banding rates in the polling. I asked. That was the answer. So here we are. We get what we asked for. OFG

 

Might have something to do with the capabilities of the CS100 vs the 717. The Series will be able to fly point to point anywhere in the US. The 717.... not so much.

 

It looks like our rates are almost the same as UAL across the board. I don't see UPS or FedEx on the charts. I guess it would make ours look too low?

I thought with all the things we are giving up, our line would at least be a significant jump above everybody else's. the other airlines barely have anything to pattern off of us with these.

I looked closely because the FAQ that came in my mailbox said we were not getting industry standard pay. I guess their definition of a standard deviation is different than a mathematicians.

 

UPS and Fedex are on the charts for the planes they fly. We are above United for all planes we fly except 767-400 from what I can see. Obviously they're snap-up will change that, but that's a good thing. Wages are going up as long as profit sharing doesn't dry up.

 

Thought the small C-100 held 110 pax and the big one held 130 ish???

 

Marginally above UAL, right? Like within a standard deviation?

I missed the FedEx rates. Thank you for pointing those out. I saw the planes they don't fly. Makes sense.

So, we are doing the concessions for industry-standard rates, right?

 

The CS100 can hold up to 125 in a high density configuration, 110 in normal seat pitch, all coach config, and 100 in a normal dual class config.

The CS300 is 145/130/120.

 

The pay banding at UAL skews the numbers by fleet and creates some weird comps such as how they pay the 757-300 more than the 757-200 and the A319 less than the A320, but if you break it down by DAL airplane and compare you get(1/1/2017):

777/747 = UAL+5.15%
A330/76-400 = UAL - 0.67%
76-300/757-300 = UAL + 5.27%
757-200 = UAL + 9.12%
A320 = UAL + 0.97%
A319 = UAL + 5.25%
737-800 = UAL + 4.64%
737-700 = UAL + 9.08%
MD88 = UAL + 3.37% (using UAL 73-700 rate...their lowest rate)
717 = UAL - 1.85% (using UAL 73-700 rate...their lowest rate)

UAL current rates get a 2% raise on 1/1/18 as we get a 3% increase so these comps diverge over time. Of course this does NOT factor in UAL's me-too clause but I don't know of a way to reasonably account for that, i.e., even if we got bigger increases in rates UAL would move up proportionally based on that.

As others have said here, UPS beats our TA rates on everything from 767 and below. Our TA rates exceed UPS on aircraft above 7ER.