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Originally Posted by whaledriver1 (Post 2233885)

Typical response from a relatively senior 'Elliot' thinking 'pull up the ladder... I've got mine mentality'. The 'Yes' votes on this POS TA will be the senior pilots with only a few years remaining. Chasing the $$$ and could care less about every Delta pilots QOL... lowering the industry bar. No Vote.

There is no way you would vote no based on logic, so you'll vote no based completely on emotion. Enjoy your misery.

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Originally Posted by TED74 (Post 2234025)

Have you ever actually met one of these mythical no-for-no-reason voters? You demonstrate a complete lack of critical thinking, and a failure to listen, to believe that a significant percentage of our pilots would vote no with no reason. You don't have to agree with any reason a no voter has to vote no, but to think they vote without reason is pretty ignorant.

I have. And two of the other pilots on my crew can verify it.

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Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 2234087)

There is no way you would vote no based on logic, so you'll vote no based completely on emotion. Enjoy your misery.

Someone explain how this is not flame bait. This site is biased plain and simple

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Originally Posted by deadseal (Post 2234145)

Someone explain how this is not flame bait. This site is biased plain and simple

Right. I have spent time in the penalty box. You are a sore loser.

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Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 2234089)

I have. And two of the other pilots on my crew can verify it.

How about the perpetual bobble heads? Seen any of those? :confused:

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Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 2234185)

How about the perpetual bobble heads? Seen any of those? :confused:

Yup. But that wasn't the challenge.

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Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 2234188)

Yup. But that wasn't the challenge.

Me too, but they are getting harder to identify by the hour. ;)

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Originally Posted by deadseal (Post 2234145)

Someone explain how this is not flame bait. This site is biased plain and simple

Where were you during the summer of 2015?

This site was biased in the opposite end of spectrum then.

The majority of the people you see on here as "yes" voters were strong "no" voters on TA15.

This place was biased to "no" back then because we had a lot of valid ammunition and facts to counter the "yes" voters time value of money argument.

I don't even recognize most of the TA16's "no" crowd, so maybe you guys don't know how it works here. Typically, good, fact based, non emotional, arguments win the day.

Ie., if you want to convince people, you guys should try using more facts, less emotion, and completely cut out the argument that what we agree to now automatically means that area in the the next contract will be worse.

If this place is biased, it's because there is a lack of convincing arguments from the other side.

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Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 2234196)

I'm not sure how 2 wrongs make a right. This is my last post here except for admin questions going forward. If anyone had integrity they would admit it right now. No quibbling, no deflecting. Like a real god damn pilot. The folks that raise issues get hammered without any consequences. It's a shame. Wether or not this problem gets solved here, I'm still gone. Hope the moderators find their integrity so as to continue the idea of freedom to exchange opinions without influence. This TA has even affected flying. I recently witnessed a 60 year old 7er captain say that voting no is equivalent to a scab, and then watched him continuously ***** at a young FO like a child that couldn't control himself. Whatever. It doesn't really matter anyway right? Cheers

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Originally Posted by deadseal (Post 2234204)

Nevermind,,,,

Cheers. :o