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Any ALPA-produced slide or graphic will always be labeled propaganda. It's as useless as an outhouse in a hurricane to the no crowd.
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
(Post 2232722)
Of course those that benefit from the QOL gain of the VB might get screwed, but their QOL doesn't matter as much as someone not hired I guess
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Originally Posted by ERflyer
(Post 2232719)
Below is the slide from the roadshow.
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
(Post 2232722)
Of course those that benefit from the QOL gain of the VB might get screwed, but their QOL doesn't matter as much as someone not hired I guess
The real question is whether the group benefits, both those that take the VB/TDY, and those that stay in base. TDY in particular seems like a tool to adjust staffing between bases, almost in real time. There is a ton here that needs to be looked at, carefully. I think we owe it to the people that want these to experiment with this, just as I think we owe it to all existing pilots to evaluate the pros and cons. I have a hunch that this will reduce credit, and probably reduce average trip length. |
Originally Posted by ERflyer
(Post 2232720)
Looking at the above slide, if VB and TDY are discontinued (they are on a test basis) that would add 141 jobs back into the mix.
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Originally Posted by ERflyer
(Post 2232731)
True. Depends on your perspective.
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
(Post 2232740)
I think that's partly TIC?
The real question is whether the group benefits, both those that take the VB/TDY, and those that stay in base. TDY in particular seems like a tool to adjust staffing between bases, almost in real time. There is a ton here that needs to be looked at, carefully. I think we owe it to the people that want these to experiment with this, just as I think we owe it to all existing pilots to evaluate the pros and cons. I have a hunch that this will reduce credit, and probably reduce average trip length. Besides, isn't working less for the same or more money a QOL improvement? |
Not sure how the second parapgraph relates to the first, James.
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The one thing I'm not seeing in that slide is the impact of the JV Scope change... Does this mean it has no impact on manning? I would think it does...
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Originally Posted by Hillbilly
(Post 2232741)
I think you're reading it wrong. I think it would only add 47 jobs. It would be the same 47 jobs for 3 years, not 47 more jobs every year.
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