PILOTO74

If you don't mind clarifying, so if you are a commuter and couldn't get on the first flight to work, they will positive space you for your second try?? that will be an awesome perk for any commuters. just to know that you will not spend the whole day at the airport trying to get to work specially during holidays.

HighFlight

That’s exactly what it means.

Bartok

Union sent the exact language in an email yesterday.

It says we keep the current call in honest policy that if you try 2 flights on any carrier that gets you in before your showtime you don't get in trouble, but it adds the delta too which adds if the second flight is on delta and gets you there before your showtime they will positive space you.

PILOTO74

Thank you!! Sounds good!! Really good!! good luck to all of you guys.

Casualinterest

Lol should have trademarked it! Did they at least ask first?? "All credit goes to"



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Kforekyle

regards to positive space, please clarify this for me. It reads that it mirrors what Delta has and can be changed anytime. What does Delta exactly have?

slowyourroll

Union email yesterday has the language.

HighFlight

Same as we have now, except that if you’re willing to do your 2nd flight on DL/DCI, and you call prior to boarding, the company will ensure you get on via positive space. IOW, they don’t kick off a revenue customer after boarding has started.

TA2017 comparison to current, Envoy, Republic

WorkingWookie

Thanks man! I'm 6.5 months out from transitioning out of the Navy and expecting to go to a regional. This chart is the best comparison I've seen in my research comparing actual hard money figures. I'm looking to relocate to JAX from SAN. Endevour was already high on the list. This might help seal the deal!

Bartok

Under our current policy, a pilot must show he attempted to board two (2) separate flights on a scheduled air carrier from the airport he is currently at, to the airport (or other co-terminal airport, in the case of NYC if the TA ratifies and it becomes a co-domicile) of scheduled duty or reserve availability. Any failure to report must be directly related to the pilot's inability to obtain a seat on either option. The pilot must then fill out a Call-In-Honest form on Endeavor's website located under Endeavor Air – Flight Ops – Forms – CIH. If a pilot meets these requirements, no disciplinary action will be taken against him.

If a pilot has two or more CIH events in a rolling 12-month period, he may be placed under the supervision of the Commuting Oversight Board (COB). Under the supervision of the COB, an individualized commuting plan will be developed to improve reliability. As long as the pilot adheres to the COB plan any further CIH events will not subject the pilot to discipline.

Endeavor management has not disciplined pilots experiencing multiple CIH events in a rolling 12-month period, unless there is obvious abuse or falsification of CIH forms. Our management team fully appreciates the challenges that pilots experience while commuting especially in and out of the NYC and ATL markets.

With the new Unable to Commute policy, all of our current CIH provisions and protections will remain in effect, contrary to the commentary on social media. The new benefit afforded to Endeavor pilots will guarantee a positive space seat on their 2nd flight attempt as long as that attempt is made on Delta or a DCI carrier. Your first flight attempt may be on any scheduled carrier. If your 2nd flight is a non-Delta/DCI carrier, the standard contractual CIH provisions will apply. In other words, your second flight DOES NOT have to be on Delta/DCI, and you will still be eligible for the CIH protection.

There have also been some concerns raised that we are mirroring a policy at Delta and tying our commuting language to Delta's FOM, which we do not control. First, our current CIH policy is contractual and will remain in effect regardless of any changes that may, but are unlikely, to occur at Delta. Second, this provision has been in effect at Delta since 2011. There would be a significant backlash from the Delta pilot group if this benefit were to be removed. Third, if the language is ever transferred from Delta's FOM to their PWA (Pilot Working Agreement) then the revised language will also apply at Endeavor.

Below we have transcribed the exact wording of the UTC Policy from the Delta FOM. Please keep in mind that as with any policy, not every circumstance is addressed. In this regard, it is extremely valuable and helpful to have knowledge of how this policy has been applied at Delta, and management has agreed that the Delta policy will be applied to our pilots in the same manner as it applies to Delta pilots, except to the extent that our contractual language offers an additional benefit. In that case, the more favorable of the provisions will apply.

Unable to Commute (UTC) Background

The UTC policy recognizes that prudent planning for a commute can sometimes be negated by unforeseen circumstances. As a result, Delta developed UTC to maintain schedule integrity by assuring positive space transportation to a pilot's scheduled or assigned duty, including seniority list instructor pilots who are commuting to a scheduled training event at the Training Center in Atlanta, if they are UTC due to operational difficulties, such as weight-restricted flights, cancellations, mechanical delays, IROPS, etc. It is not intended to remedy the consequences of poor planning.

Definition

Prudent planning is defined as having allowed for both a primary and a back-up flight that are scheduled to arrive at the pilot's base within a reasonable time prior to scheduled report.
Prudent planning also requires that a pilot consider cabin/jumpseat availability, weather, and any special events that may impact load factor.

Requirements

Pilot remains responsible to arrive at their base prior to duty with sufficient time and adequate rest, in accordance with governing rules and regulations.
In order to utilize this policy, the pilot must have listed and checked-in for either a jumpseat or cabin seat on their primary flight.
The primary flight can be on a Delta mainline, DCI, or OAL. The back-up flight must be on a Delta Mainline or DCI.

Procedure

If a pilot is not successful in boarding their primary flight:

The pilot will notify Crew Scheduling
The pilot will provide the scheduler with the flight numbers of the primary and back-up flights

The scheduler will verify:

that the pilot was listed for the primary flight, and
that both flights were scheduled to have arrived within a reasonable time prior to scheduled report.

Once verified, the scheduler will create a positive space reservation (or a jumpseat reservation, if available) on a flight that is scheduled to arrive prior to the pilot's scheduled report.
Delta will provide positive space transportation only to the airport of a pilot's assigned duty.

The scheduler must be able to make a positive space reservation prior to actual boarding of the intended flight.

Positive space transportation will be provided regardless of reserve coverage.

Contingency

In the event that the back-up flight will not arrive prior to the pilot's scheduled report and the scheduler cannot find another suitable flight:

The scheduler may make a reasonable attempt to deadhead the pilot (no pay or credit) to join their rotation with no rotation guarantee. Pilots who deadhead to join a rotation as a benefit of this policy are not subject to PWA Sections 8 F. and 16 D.1.
If the scheduler does not elect to deadhead the pilot, they will be removed from the rotation via personal drop (no pay or credit). Once released, the pilot is free to pick up a trip through the normal PCS process.

Possible Follow-Up

A pilot may be contacted by their CPO, or a seniority list instructor pilot may be contacted by their Fleet Captain, to discuss commuting strategies if their use of this benefit appears to have been excessive or inappropriate.

If it is determined that the benefit has been misused, a pilot's future participation in the program may be reconsidered.