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theUpsideDown 12-21-2019 09:48 AM


Originally Posted by ninerdriver (Post 2942891)
This is a contract violation waiting to happen; reserve assignment order is contractual.

You're also potentially taking away open time that someone else could pick up at 150% or more.

Either way, don't do it.

Those guys know it's a filthy move, and it's not hard to figure out which pilot is doing it. Simply wait for them to pull that crap, fill out and issue form every time, get paid tons of money, filthy pilot stealing flying out of seniority order becomes a near memo and schedulers know he's a filthy beggar and not to feed a beggar.

It's not a "near contract violation" it is a clear violation. Put your issue forms it, watch it stop like magic in two months with 12-40 extra hours in your pocket.

flydiamond 12-21-2019 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by theUpsideDown (Post 2942901)
Those guys know it's a filthy move, and it's not hard to figure out which pilot is doing it. Simply wait for them to pull that crap, fill out and issue form every time, get paid tons of money, filthy pilot stealing flying out of seniority order becomes a near memo and schedulers know he's a filthy beggar and not to feed a beggar.

It's not a "near contract violation" it is a clear violation. Put your issue forms it, watch it stop like magic in two months with 12-40 extra hours in your pocket.

More like 6-9 months but yes...

Casualinterest 12-21-2019 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by msprj2 (Post 2942886)
Funny how you line holders are telling those on rsv how much or little they are working. Both Msp CA’s and FO’s are working almost every day. It’s not full trips it’s fly 2 dh1 or vice versa.

We are running out of CA rsv’s

A lot lately in multiple bases.

All verified on flica or by conversations with CS. It’s the planning department that decides

On crew metrics. Send a email to a a top level guy asking why

No upgrades when we’re running

Short. It’s cheaper to pay a CA 150% to pickup than upgrade an FO. Sadly it comes from the top.

Lol I actually agree with you,



But did you write in

Iambic pentameter

For dramatic tone

?


:-)

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theUpsideDown 12-21-2019 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by flydiamond (Post 2942912)
More like 6-9 months but yes...

So every month you bank 12-40 hours to be paid later. When that stuff gets submitted to the company the schedulers get an immediate talking to and would know better for next time except they're already gone 4 months later and the next group of idiots come in. The only thing I can say for sure is somehow "that guy" name gets passed around for getting schedulers in trouble and not to make deals with him next time, which tribal information somehow makes it to the next scheduler (not how to ACTUALLY assign trips correctly, just whatever you do never listen to old Jack wagon McGee there)

Flogger 12-21-2019 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by theUpsideDown (Post 2942980)
So every month you bank 12-40 hours to be paid later. When that stuff gets submitted to the company the schedulers get an immediate talking to and would know better for next time except they're already gone 4 months later and the next group of idiots come in. The only thing I can say for sure is somehow "that guy" name gets passed around for getting schedulers in trouble and not to make deals with him next time, which tribal information somehow makes it to the next scheduler (not how to ACTUALLY assign trips correctly, just whatever you do never listen to old Jack wagon McGee there)

I don't get your emotional investment in this?

Or are you posting while ginned up?

Mesabah 12-21-2019 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by msprj2 (Post 2942886)
Funny how you line holders are telling those on rsv how much or little they are working. Both Msp CA’s and FO’s are working almost every day. It’s not full trips it’s fly 2 dh1 or vice versa.
We are running out of CA rsv’s
A lot lately in multiple bases.
All verified on flica or by conversations with CS. It’s the planning department that decides
On crew metrics. Send a email to a a top level guy asking why
No upgrades when we’re running
Short. It’s cheaper to pay a CA 150% to pickup than upgrade an FO. Sadly it comes from the top.

Is it just me, or is scheduling starting to act like Pinnacle again?

theUpsideDown 12-21-2019 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by Flogger (Post 2943034)
I don't get your emotional investment in this?

Or are you posting while ginned up?

No, I always get pretty riled up at 25.j and the wagons of crap that used to throw everyone under the bus to "make happen" whatever they felt was better. There were no ends of their rationalization.

I have patience for a some things, not watching pilots screw each other over because they've either decided seniority doesnt matter or they're smarter than anyone else and know that the better way. I still remember a few by name, if they ever get over to Delta I'd be shocked but I'll watch out for them there too.

Above all else, you own your seniority.

I wasnt the only one that felt that way, one of my better mentors showed me how to watch my butt. Earned me tons of money and a special chuckle when said cheater would ***** in the crew room that he wasn't flying anymore. Or wasn't able to cheat and sit out of base reserve while the rest of us commuted in senior to him.

ASAPsafetyGUY 12-21-2019 05:27 PM

Blah blah. So I wonder if TW pounded the new PX down when he brought it in to USA. There to get it back on fleet track.

42jeff 12-21-2019 05:49 PM

Since I finished oe in January I have 157 hrs... Average of 13 hrs a month. Recurrent was a treat I tell ya.

Don't you dare lecture me on dropping reserve days to pick up open time. I've tried. Allow me to invite you to see the hundred drop requests denied because the reserve grid shows a threshold HIGHER than then number reserve captains assigned.

Yes. I've called to see if they "have anything for me".

Average of 10 RR a month. And I say average because last mknth I did 12..a few months prior I did 11. The majority of my flying has come on three trips assigned... 1 5 day. 1 4 day. One wonderful 4 day that they took the last two days away and put me on RRA... Just to then try assigning me one of those removed flights I took great joy in refusing that one since they wanted me to take a deadhead outside my rra window
The rest of them out and backs.. Usually to Saginaw, Lansing, Columbus and Dayton

I'm done whining.... All ginned up and got triggered

wiggy15 12-21-2019 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by 42jeff (Post 2943114)
Since I finished oe in January I have 157 hrs... Average of 13 hrs a month. Recurrent was a treat I tell ya.

Don't you dare lecture me on dropping reserve days to pick up open time. I've tried. Allow me to invite you to see the hundred drop requests denied because the reserve grid shows a threshold HIGHER than then number reserve captains assigned.

Yes. I've called to see if they "have anything for me".

Average of 10 RR a month. And I say average because last mknth I did 12..a few months prior I did 11. The majority of my flying has come on three trips assigned... 1 5 day. 1 4 day. One wonderful 4 day that they took the last two days away and put me on RRA... Just to then try assigning me one of those removed flights I took great joy in refusing that one since they wanted me to take a deadhead outside my rra window
The rest of them out and backs.. Usually to Saginaw, Lansing, Columbus and Dayton

I'm done whining.... All ginned up and got triggered

Isn't 10RR the contractual maximum? If so, hoped you grieved those others.


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