No i sure didn't miss that. Otherwise I'd be pretending Delta still wholly owned DGS. Our discussion was why they merged and why delta gave up anything to a private company. You're clearly having a conversation, I just don't know with who, and I'm not going to repeat the same things.

Look back, at the refinery purchase, the stated goal was to run the jet fuel operation at a "loss" when oil jumped up in price and there'd be more margin to play with. Furthermore anderson would argue they weren't dropping the price for every airline, just theirs, so the other refineries choice would be ex-market discount (preventing the need for other refineries to drop their price except for a partial demand drop). Choices made by Warmann excluded, the refinery wasn't profitable before the merger and wasnt planned to be profitable afterwards, just meant to be a living hedge against a surge in demand that never came.

 

As already pointed out, that assertion is quite ignorant. 9E has scope specifically to prevent it so unless you, as 9E pilots, give it up, there is nothing to be concerned about in that area.

 

There are some decent DGS stations, but none of them compare to a mainline station, so they in no way have the best operational airline product in the world (impossible unless they are better than the mainline stations). There were some stations that were just horrendous. ORF and RDU at least were two of the worst, although I haven't been to either of those in a while.

 

RIC, XNA (At one point only had 4 total rampies for all day), MHT... the list goes on and on. He must have thought I was talking about the Delta mainline ramp. To try and paint DGS as anything other than a calamity is preposterous. Anyway, someone else is gonna run them now. Even if they get to Simplicity standards that'll be a great improvement. Alert the DTW pilots on APC I just said something nice about Simplicity.

 

Simplicity was good... for about 2 weeks, then it became the same hot garbage as every other operation that has ever been on the B/C concourse since the NW/DL merger.

 

They just need to make BC in dtw mainline.

 

I think this SkyWest buying 9E thing is a bunch of hooey anyway, so I'm not worried. I am curious, though, because I don't see the following in the contract.

What would keep an acquiring company from buying 9E, not merging the lists, and letting operational performance at 9E (like maintenance or OCC-based performance, for recent example) degrade to the point that our flying isn't renewed? Maintenance is as good as the budget will take it, as is starting with enough fuel to make prudent operational decisions off the gate.

 

Our captains have direct control over that part of the operation. If we don't feel we have enough, pick up the phone and get more. If they won't give it to you (now this is of course within a reasonable context) then you don't sign the release and don't release the brake. Captain 101... FO's are you actually paying attention or just adding up your logbooks? I will say in 14+ years, I've only had to ask for more fuel about a dozen times... most had to do with a former dispatcher nicknamed gerbil.

 

Can you speak for all DTW pilots on a question from a humble NYC pilot: why in the hell does every dtw pilot beam with pride because they got a few more pounds of poop stuffed in the cockpit trash bag? On a whole you guys aren't happy until the trash stands up on its own, and cant be removed from the cockpit without piles of crap falling out of it. Ok, I'll take my answers off air and thanks!

 

You won't need as much fuel anyway when you're cruising around at .70