Could Endeavor Air be sold to SkyWest?
02-10-2019 | 06:14 PM
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I think this SkyWest buying 9E thing is a bunch of hooey anyway, so I'm not worried. I am curious, though, because I don't see the following in the contract.
What would keep an acquiring company from buying 9E, not merging the lists, and letting operational performance at 9E (like maintenance or OCC-based performance, for recent example) degrade to the point that our flying isn't renewed? Maintenance is as good as the budget will take it, as is starting with enough fuel to make prudent operational decisions off the gate.
What would keep an acquiring company from buying 9E, not merging the lists, and letting operational performance at 9E (like maintenance or OCC-based performance, for recent example) degrade to the point that our flying isn't renewed? Maintenance is as good as the budget will take it, as is starting with enough fuel to make prudent operational decisions off the gate.
Union contracts of any ilk, dont have any control over how idiot managers run the business. If they want to plow it in, they can, hard. If the company ceases to exist our contract is meaningless. It takes months to tank a company, and the airplanes won't be guaranteed to skywest, nor would delta ever forgive skywest for that disruption.
I don't know what you're talking about with gas and prudent decisions. You're the PIC.
02-10-2019 | 06:16 PM
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Can you speak for all DTW pilots on a question from a humble NYC pilot: why in the hell does every dtw pilot beam with pride because they got a few more pounds of poop stuffed in the cockpit trash bag? On a whole you guys aren't happy until the trash stands up on its own, and cant be removed from the cockpit without piles of crap falling out of it. Ok, I'll take my answers off air and thanks!
OK joke aside I just never saw a need to replace a bag that was all paper ( I don't use tobacco and VERY rarely eat anything in the cockpit) until the end of the day... I hate when I've flown 1 leg to JFK and the cleaners rip the bag away with 2 ounces of paper in it (and haven't even finished cleaning up the scraps from the flight) and now I need to track down a new plastic bag to further pollute the landfills eventually. Perhaps we should have an hour of required recurrent devoted to Stu M.
02-11-2019 | 01:34 AM
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Our captains have direct control over that part of the operation. If we don't feel we have enough, pick up the phone and get more. If they won't give it to you (now this is of course within a reasonable context) then you don't sign the release and don't release the brake. Captain 101... FO's are you actually paying attention or just adding up your logbooks? I will say in 14+ years, I've only had to ask for more fuel about a dozen times... most had to do with a former dispatcher nicknamed gerbil.
Where I was trying to go with this (and I'm done with it after this one) is if some slick management group wanted to buy us, undermine our airline operationally, and ultimately take the flying, then they could do it while still adhering to our contract. Kinda like... y'know, legacy ASA.
02-11-2019 | 04:01 AM
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Eh, I know that we don't have a problem with it here right now. Our airline isn't cheap in that department.
Where I was trying to go with this (and I'm done with it after this one) is if some slick management group wanted to buy us, undermine our airline operationally, and ultimately take the flying, then they could do it while still adhering to our contract. Kinda like... y'know, legacy ASA.
Where I was trying to go with this (and I'm done with it after this one) is if some slick management group wanted to buy us, undermine our airline operationally, and ultimately take the flying, then they could do it while still adhering to our contract. Kinda like... y'know, legacy ASA.
02-11-2019 | 04:14 AM
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Argenbright wouldn't pay what delta wanted and no one else would take the failing company. Delta goes from whole owner to stakeholder so DGS doesn't collapse when Argenbright finds out how badly run DGS is. That stake will be reduced over time, and maybe in time Delta the public company will release more information on the transaction. Argen is a private company so I'd guess 3-5 years delta has some small partnership.
You can buy into the flowery language if you want. Delta traded a bad asset and volunteered to keep themselves tied to it, because no one is buying DGS as a viable business. Meanwhile Delta gets to take important airports like RDU and turn them mainline, and I'd expect within 1-3 years Argenbright is running all tsa operations in ATL, DTW and MSP (delta side) and a handful of others.
Bonuses, we lose DGS and a private firm fixes some of the nonsense, and possibly the blue badge wearing smurfs get unloaded for something less badly run at a couple key airports. Worse case, Argenbright does what they are most famous for. What's the worse that could happen?
You can buy into the flowery language if you want. Delta traded a bad asset and volunteered to keep themselves tied to it, because no one is buying DGS as a viable business. Meanwhile Delta gets to take important airports like RDU and turn them mainline, and I'd expect within 1-3 years Argenbright is running all tsa operations in ATL, DTW and MSP (delta side) and a handful of others.
Bonuses, we lose DGS and a private firm fixes some of the nonsense, and possibly the blue badge wearing smurfs get unloaded for something less badly run at a couple key airports. Worse case, Argenbright does what they are most famous for. What's the worse that could happen?
02-11-2019 | 06:11 AM
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02-11-2019 | 06:20 PM
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I think this SkyWest buying 9E thing is a bunch of hooey anyway, so I'm not worried. I am curious, though, because I don't see the following in the contract.
What would keep an acquiring company from buying 9E, not merging the lists, and letting operational performance at 9E (like maintenance or OCC-based performance, for recent example) degrade to the point that our flying isn't renewed? Maintenance is as good as the budget will take it, as is starting with enough fuel to make prudent operational decisions off the gate.
What would keep an acquiring company from buying 9E, not merging the lists, and letting operational performance at 9E (like maintenance or OCC-based performance, for recent example) degrade to the point that our flying isn't renewed? Maintenance is as good as the budget will take it, as is starting with enough fuel to make prudent operational decisions off the gate.
02-11-2019 | 06:27 PM
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Recent events are showing that Delta Air Lines wants to limit its liability. The sale of Delta Global Services shows us this. All they're getting from owning their own regional, Endeavor Air, is more liability. SkyWest offers them a better product with no union costs, better fuel economy at 250 knots, and more calls for ride reports and ramp access requests on 121.5. I think it's likely that they're in talks to sell Endeavor Air to SkyWest at this very moment. It could be L-ASA/ExpressJet all over again around here.
Delta runs a near perfect operation with little to no cancellations.
Skywest is one of the most vulnerable regionals. Their no union and poor pay means they will have trouble staffing. All legacy carriers contracts with regionals have “performance” in them.
Endeavor will be just fine by themselves and the last DCI to go.
02-11-2019 | 07:27 PM
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Complete nonsense.
Delta runs a near perfect operation with little to no cancellations.
Skywest is one of the most vulnerable regionals. Their no union and poor pay means they will have trouble staffing. All legacy carriers contracts with regionals have “performance” in them.
Endeavor will be just fine by themselves and the last DCI to go.
Delta runs a near perfect operation with little to no cancellations.
Skywest is one of the most vulnerable regionals. Their no union and poor pay means they will have trouble staffing. All legacy carriers contracts with regionals have “performance” in them.
Endeavor will be just fine by themselves and the last DCI to go.
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