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Old 09-19-2019, 12:00 PM
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I'm a hat guy. I like my hat. It's not my I'm-Delta's-***** hat. It's just a hat.

I also don't like anyone telling me what to do.

All that considered, I'm totally down with the unity thing, so the hat comes off for now. I'm suggesting anyone else in my boat do the same.

Concerns about the MEC's direction? Take it up with the MEC via email or website. Don't air it here.
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Old 09-19-2019, 01:00 PM
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Concerns about the MEC's direction? Take it up with the MEC via email or website. Don't air it here.
Yes, dear god take it up with your Rep. It’s literally what your paying them for!
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Old 09-19-2019, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Boats and Hos View Post
We might just get ComAired or Expressjetted or Compassed or Gojetted. The D has a way of being nasty when the step children start misbehaving.

I’m torn again about this but will comply with Alpa’s directive. I was thinking if we ALL wore our hats but that would be more difficult. The lanyards work believe it or not as it show’s solidarity for a specific purpose.

The saddess part is the continued false promises and the BBQ Q&As. In addition, the survey. They seem to just be ignoring us and our pleas but, food, hats and mugs will appease us. Most come here for the chance to play for the Yankees. The Oakland A’s or L.A. Dodgers are good teams too so instead of waiting for the pinstripes, off they will go. This is the part that makes no sense. You’d think like the Yankees they’d have a good farm team to draw from but they created another farm team while we sit thinking we have a chance. Keep swinging that bat and getting on base and MAYBE you’ll be in pinstripes someday. It gets depressing after awhile. I wonder how long Jeter would have stayed. Sorry for the baseball analogy but it’s the closest thing I know.

What I see is a new company (name) but the same old regional mentality. All the wholly owned AA companies even adapted. Not saying it’s better but again, the Yankee thing. Do your time and you will get pinstripes. Here, you have to prove your worth all over again even though after years of IROPS, PA’s, NPS scores, Airport reserve and slogging it out in D colored jets, with D passengers, you’re just not good enough or prove it, which only few apparently can. Funny thing is if you don’t make it through you go right back to flying the D brand. It’s a poor message.

The D has to choose to adapt in the new world we are told we live in. Pilot’s never really inner acted with passengers but we do now. So we sell the brand we then should be included in the brand. Otherwise just make everything Skywest. If they gave us a flow or staple you can bet the Sky people would be upset and they would have the right to be.

In closing, if Piedmont, Envoy and PSA can have a flow, that works and doesn’t seem to have any drama, why can’t we, Republic and Skywest???
Yup! We've been doing all the things they want, and all they give us is more empty promises. I will wear the lanyard proudly with nothing on my head just to show unity and solidarity. Now if we could only get DALPA to learn the meaning of those two words. We are all ALPA, period.
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Old 09-19-2019, 01:08 PM
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Delta has the DGI commitment, and the Propel commitment, both of which will be taking pilots out of Endeavor. Any flow would have to be in addition to those pilots moving to Delta. Unless you are in the top 100, you won't flow for at least 5 years, minimum.
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Old 09-19-2019, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah View Post
Delta has the DGI commitment, and the Propel commitment, both of which will be taking pilots out of Endeavor. Any flow would have to be in addition to those pilots moving to Delta. Unless you are in the top 100, you won't flow for at least 5 years, minimum.
What DGI commitment? There's nothing contractual. Until it's in writing, there's no commitment.
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Old 09-19-2019, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Green Needles View Post
Yup! We've been doing all the things they want, and all they give us is more empty promises. I will wear the lanyard proudly with nothing on my head just to show unity and solidarity. Now if we could only get DALPA to learn the meaning of those two words. We are all ALPA, period.
Give DALPA some credit. They did unanimously draft and ratify a resolution in support of better career progression for 9E pilots. From what we're hearing, they ARE in our corner on this one. But they're just starting section 6 negotiations. They aren't going to spend any negotiating capital on us right now. Even if they wanted to, the part of the pilot group that has no idea who we are would throw a fit and recall them all. They do support us, there's just only so much they can do right now

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Old 09-19-2019, 02:44 PM
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Good luck guys.

At Eagle, but if I see an EDV pilot in the van or airport wearing his/her hat, I'll be sure to ask why.
It'll be harder from now on to recognize EDV crews.
It's been easy thus far, they are the ones who think hat without the blazer is a good look.

Good luck to EDV guys. Flow should be industry standard from a WO.
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Old 09-19-2019, 05:05 PM
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It'll be harder from now on to recognize EDV crews.
It's been easy thus far, they are the ones who think hat without the blazer is a good look.

Good luck to EDV guys. Flow should be industry standard from a WO.
Hat and blazer in the summer smh 🤦🏻*♂️ it’s embarrassing. Hopefully it will stop now.
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Old 09-19-2019, 05:59 PM
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Hats are one thing, but can we finally start shaming those who wear Delta lanyards?
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Old 09-19-2019, 06:11 PM
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Hats are one thing, but can we finally start shaming those who wear Delta lanyards?


Thought that was a given?
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