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#11
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2019
Posts: 110
What's with all the cloak and dagger in this industry?
we live in 2022.... and I notice certain things in aviation that just doesn't make sense
#1 reluctance to discuss pay openly
#2 reluctance to discuss where pilots are going "hey I got an offer! I won't disclose where i am going..." why?
#3 whatever is being discussed - it's going to be public anyway? what good comes from closed room discussions? why can't it be transparent?
we live in 2022.... and I notice certain things in aviation that just doesn't make sense
#1 reluctance to discuss pay openly
#2 reluctance to discuss where pilots are going "hey I got an offer! I won't disclose where i am going..." why?
#3 whatever is being discussed - it's going to be public anyway? what good comes from closed room discussions? why can't it be transparent?
#12
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Joined APC: Apr 2019
Posts: 50
What's with all the cloak and dagger in this industry?
we live in 2022.... and I notice certain things in aviation that just doesn't make sense
#1 reluctance to discuss pay openly
#2 reluctance to discuss where pilots are going "hey I got an offer! I won't disclose where i am going..." why?
#3 whatever is being discussed - it's going to be public anyway? what good comes from closed room discussions? why can't it be transparent?
we live in 2022.... and I notice certain things in aviation that just doesn't make sense
#1 reluctance to discuss pay openly
#2 reluctance to discuss where pilots are going "hey I got an offer! I won't disclose where i am going..." why?
#3 whatever is being discussed - it's going to be public anyway? what good comes from closed room discussions? why can't it be transparent?
#13
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2017
Posts: 1,793
What's with all the cloak and dagger in this industry?
we live in 2022.... and I notice certain things in aviation that just doesn't make sense
#1 reluctance to discuss pay openly
#2 reluctance to discuss where pilots are going "hey I got an offer! I won't disclose where i am going..." why?
#3 whatever is being discussed - it's going to be public anyway? what good comes from closed room discussions? why can't it be transparent?
we live in 2022.... and I notice certain things in aviation that just doesn't make sense
#1 reluctance to discuss pay openly
#2 reluctance to discuss where pilots are going "hey I got an offer! I won't disclose where i am going..." why?
#3 whatever is being discussed - it's going to be public anyway? what good comes from closed room discussions? why can't it be transparent?
#14
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2016
Posts: 896
To the management types we know monitor this forum: if you don't at least beat the AA package, whatever you are offering is worthless. Don't waste our time or yours.
#15
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Joined APC: Apr 2019
Posts: 1,077
40k is very low and insulting. First time ever hearing that number. We all know what we really want as retention but seems like that's out of the question. They can throw all the money they want too at is and it's still not going to prevent people leaving. I have faith in the union and they will get something done that most of us like.
Unless you give me 500k then I'd wait..and make the rsv grid always green.
Unless you give me 500k then I'd wait..and make the rsv grid always green.
#16
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Joined APC: Jan 2022
Posts: 37
What's with all the cloak and dagger in this industry?
we live in 2022.... and I notice certain things in aviation that just doesn't make sense
#1 reluctance to discuss pay openly
#2 reluctance to discuss where pilots are going "hey I got an offer! I won't disclose where i am going..." why?
#3 whatever is being discussed - it's going to be public anyway? what good comes from closed room discussions? why can't it be transparent?
we live in 2022.... and I notice certain things in aviation that just doesn't make sense
#1 reluctance to discuss pay openly
#2 reluctance to discuss where pilots are going "hey I got an offer! I won't disclose where i am going..." why?
#3 whatever is being discussed - it's going to be public anyway? what good comes from closed room discussions? why can't it be transparent?
1) We do discus pay openly, the rates are published.
2) Most are happy to share where they are going and why.
3) ALPA does not negotiate in public, it’s for the benefit of membership. Negotiations in public means giving up information which generally hurts the negotiating capital.
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#17
What's with all the cloak and dagger in this industry?
we live in 2022.... and I notice certain things in aviation that just doesn't make sense
#1 reluctance to discuss pay openly
#2 reluctance to discuss where pilots are going "hey I got an offer! I won't disclose where i am going..." why?
#3 whatever is being discussed - it's going to be public anyway? what good comes from closed room discussions? why can't it be transparent?
we live in 2022.... and I notice certain things in aviation that just doesn't make sense
#1 reluctance to discuss pay openly
#2 reluctance to discuss where pilots are going "hey I got an offer! I won't disclose where i am going..." why?
#3 whatever is being discussed - it's going to be public anyway? what good comes from closed room discussions? why can't it be transparent?
#18
Considering how junior this airline is going to get, awareness had better start coming sooner than that - and quickly.
#19
Our most junior captain as of the last vacancy was hired, *i think*, 2 years and 2 months ago. We might actually run out of upgradeable FOs in the next vacancy in March. A lot of FOs that are junior to our soon-to-be most junior captain haven't been able to fly much due to being hired during covid.
Going to be real interesting, real quick.
Going to be real interesting, real quick.
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