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Old 07-21-2022 | 03:39 PM
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So we are giving longevity credit to direct entry Captains and paying them more than Captains who have been on property and we don’t mention that there is an incentive for our Captains who have previous 121 time to go to another airline where they can get that credit, more pay and a faster flow…

I wonder if that has anything to do with the higher than expected attrition. Does the ISL (or anything else) indicate how many of our pilots have previous 121 time?
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Old 11-01-2022 | 02:28 AM
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Has anybody heard details of how this will work?

Do they pull the time out of Sabre? Will it be a form on the company website?

Is the longevity good for more vacation? Higher pay? Just retirement?
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Old 11-01-2022 | 02:51 AM
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Has anybody heard details of how this will work?

Do they pull the time out of Sabre? Will it be a form on the company website?

Is the longevity good for more vacation? Higher pay? Just retirement?
Vacation is based on Seniority not Longevity. The company isn’t doing retro to people with previous 121.
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Old 11-01-2022 | 02:55 AM
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Vacation is based on Seniority not Longevity. The company isn’t doing retro to people with previous 121.
If you come to Endeavor today as a Dir Entry CA with 10 years of previous 121 you’ll be a new hire(Senority) but on 10 year Captain pay.(Longevity). Is what it is...
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Old 11-01-2022 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by legend
If you come to Endeavor today as a Dir Entry CA with 10 years of previous 121 you’ll be a new hire(Senority) but on 10 year Captain pay.(Longevity). Is what it is...
So if that new hire turns 65 next year do they get to keep flight benefits?
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Old 11-01-2022 | 05:38 PM
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So if that new hire turns 65 next year do they get to keep flight benefits?
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Old 11-02-2022 | 01:16 AM
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That would give it a good 20-30 NO votes...what's the point of longevity if not for retirement benefits? if it is just a pay enhancement, they should call it that..
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Old 11-02-2022 | 05:05 AM
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That would give it a good 20-30 NO votes...what's the point of longevity if not for retirement benefits? if it is just a pay enhancement, they should call it that..
Maybe ask a rep for clarification.. I don’t see them giving vacation etc for that. But I could be wrong. They (company)are walking a fine line stepping over those senior to them who have accrued the Longevity in years of service. Im guessing Skywest and others are only offering pay longevity with time served up to 10 years. I did hear of one that is higher.
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Old 11-02-2022 | 05:08 AM
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That would give it a good 20-30 NO votes...what's the point of longevity if not for retirement benefits? if it is just a pay enhancement, they should call it that..
The MEC will be voting not us as it should..
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The MEC will be voting not us as it should..
where’d you hear this?
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