2024: No Summer Flows?
02-20-2024, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 24Whiskey
“We’re getting 175’s. Delta’s going to announce a 190 order next week along with a flow.”
An LCP told me that a week before Delta announced their first CS100 order.
An LCP told me that a week before Delta announced their first CS100 order.
02-21-2024, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by bonesbrigade
Delta literally had already ordered e190s... Airbus took care of those as part of the 220 order. The training department had already begun prepping for 190s.
Outsourced E190s are not and have never been compliant with Delta pilots' scope.
02-22-2024, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by StoneQOLdCrazy
The only 190s associated with Delta were some beat-up airframes attached to a contract TA back in 2016 that Delta pilots voted down. They were not "ordered."
Outsourced E190s are not and have never been compliant with Delta pilots' scope.
Outsourced E190s are not and have never been compliant with Delta pilots' scope.
02-22-2024, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by StoneQOLdCrazy
The only 190s associated with Delta were some beat-up airframes attached to a contract TA back in 2016 that Delta pilots voted down. They were not "ordered."
Outsourced E190s are not and have never been compliant with Delta pilots' scope.
Outsourced E190s are not and have never been compliant with Delta pilots' scope.
"ordered" or not, the process had begun.
02-22-2024, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by bonesbrigade
"ordered" or not, the process had begun.
Anyway, those e190s were not "orders." They were used. Beaten like rented mules. Not ordred off the line. They were the free undercoating thrown in to sweeten the pot for a 737 order and to be flown at the mainline...until DALPA slapped Delta into reality.
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02-23-2024, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by StoneQOLdCrazy
I began the process to order a Porsche GT3rs, but I did not actually order it.
Anyway, those e190s were not "orders." They were used. Beaten like rented mules. Not ordred off the line. They were the free undercoating thrown in to sweeten the pot for a 737 order and to be flown at the mainline...until DALPA slapped Delta into reality.
Anyway, those e190s were not "orders." They were used. Beaten like rented mules. Not ordred off the line. They were the free undercoating thrown in to sweeten the pot for a 737 order and to be flown at the mainline...until DALPA slapped Delta into reality.
03-01-2024, 11:56 AM
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Delta expected ALPA to negotiate for higher rates on the E190s. ALPA had higher priorites, and basically said, good luck trying to hire onto an E190 with below-market rates.
It was an odd situation where the company basically would have had to use its own negotiating captial to obtain a higher 190 rate. They decided it wasn't worthwhile, and instead focused on/plussed up the order for what become A220s
It was an odd situation where the company basically would have had to use its own negotiating captial to obtain a higher 190 rate. They decided it wasn't worthwhile, and instead focused on/plussed up the order for what become A220s
03-03-2024, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by StoneQOLdCrazy
Delta expected ALPA to negotiate for higher rates on the E190s. ALPA had higher priorites, and basically said, good luck trying to hire onto an E190 with below-market rates.
It was an odd situation where the company basically would have had to use its own negotiating captial to obtain a higher 190 rate. They decided it wasn't worthwhile, and instead focused on/plussed up the order for what become A220s
It was an odd situation where the company basically would have had to use its own negotiating captial to obtain a higher 190 rate. They decided it wasn't worthwhile, and instead focused on/plussed up the order for what become A220s
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