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09-27-2014, 01:32 AM
#161
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Originally Posted by spaaks
The only reason daddy D needs endeavor is for whipsaw purposes. They will keep you around until you can't staff 5 airplanes. Then they will close the doors (10 yrs from now) when the industry landscape is completely different. They only need you for the rate reset ,they don't care what size you are. endeavor is a small pawn in their chess game that they will sacrifice without even thinking about
09-27-2014, 04:05 AM
#162
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Originally Posted by gojo
Ah yes, and yet another one who has this all figured out. Have you given any thought to how Skywest Inc. might react to this rate reset?
09-27-2014, 05:59 AM
#164
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Originally Posted by amcnd
The rate reset wont hurt SKW as much as you think.. 9e's 200 leases are more costly then Inc.'s... And its realy your "crew rates" on the 900's that hurt us. But thats just a fraction of overall operating costs...
09-27-2014, 07:09 AM
#167
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Originally Posted by Avroman
This could go one of two ways: 1. SkyWest could pull an Air Wisconsin and give Delta the stink eye and continue on with the United and now American flying. 2. Delta could offer to waive the rate reset in exchange for the wind down of ALL the ExpressJet flying, transferring the 700's and 900's to SkyWest (yes both Delta's AND United's) Delta has shown multiple times already an interest in disrupting United's feed. (Colgan and Chautauqua)
SKW will tell Delta no thanks on the 200 flying when the rate reset happens. The reason? SKW needs those pilots in more profitable frames, the new E-jets on order. It doesn't make sense for SKW to keep hard-to-find pilots in the 200, especially if they are close to losing money.
I also think that the legacy ASA Delta flying might substantially decrease or go away completely... the reason being they are losing massive amounts of money as a company, dragging Inc's bottom line down with it, and again, those pilots could be put to better use elsewhere.
09-27-2014, 07:37 AM
#169
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Originally Posted by 8ballfreight
was comair part of the rate reset since they were also owned?
Is delta still loaning money to endevour or are they solvent on their own now?
Is delta still loaning money to endevour or are they solvent on their own now?
09-27-2014, 07:43 AM
#170
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Nothing against anybody, I'm just curious if the contract had any language in it barring delta from artificially lowering rates via subsidizing a wholly owned.
It would be pretty dumb to not see that possibility even back then.
It would be pretty dumb to not see that possibility even back then.
