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CODs4ever 03-28-2017 06:52 AM

Once someone has 1000 hrs of 121, what is the deciding factor - company hours or seniority number? If seniority number 1200 has 500 company hrs (due to DTW/MSP flying...more months on reserve) and number 1250 has 700 company hrs (flying as a NYC lineholder)....who does the upgrade go to?

Are total flight hours or total 121 hours even a consideration at that point? That's what I want to know as it will help me decide whether to push for max hours each month or a QOL schedule.

KSCessnaDriver 03-28-2017 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by CODs4ever (Post 2330907)
Once someone has 1000 hrs of 121, what is the deciding factor - company hours or seniority number? If seniority number 1200 has 500 company hrs (due to DTW/MSP flying...more months on reserve) and number 1250 has 700 company hrs (flying as a NYC lineholder)....who does the upgrade go to?

Are total flight hours or total 121 hours even a consideration at that point? That's what I want to know as it will help me decide whether to push for max hours each month or a QOL schedule.

Which is why I want clarification on 24.H.2, that's really what the issue at hand is.

CODs4ever 03-28-2017 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by KSCessnaDriver (Post 2330909)
Which is why I want clarification on 24.H.2, that's really what the issue at hand is.

I'd really like to know as well. I am around 1400 seniority with the 121 time but still only have about 300 hrs company time. Trying to figure out if I should be out there flying my butt off or just enjoying a decent schedule while waiting patiently.

legend 03-28-2017 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by CODs4ever (Post 2330928)
I'd really like to know as well. I am around 1400 seniority with the 121 time but still only have about 300 hrs company time. Trying to figure out if I should be out there flying my butt off or just enjoying a decent schedule while waiting patiently.

Just my opinion but I'm betting they don't want to reduce company time if they don't have to. So a guy with more company will most likely get it but as previously stated an interpretation would be good.

KSCessnaDriver 03-28-2017 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by legend (Post 2330945)
Just my opinion but I'm betting they don't want to reduce company time if they don't have to. So a guy with more company will most likely get it but as previously stated an interpretation would be good.

Obviously not, as they gave it to guys with 600 company, when guys had 900+ company and were junior to them.

CODs4ever 03-28-2017 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by KSCessnaDriver (Post 2330948)
Obviously not, as they gave it to guys with 600 company, when guys had 900+ company and were junior to them.

Those guys/gals with 900+ company, did they also have over the 1000 FAR hours?

PilotMechanic 03-28-2017 07:56 AM

Other good news for new hires and potential new hires. There is movement to other bases for those looking for DTW, MSP, and ATL.
Most junior FO's that got base swaps this last vacancy. ATL-200 FO Jan 17 hire, DTW-200 FO Feb 17, DTW-900 FO Oct 16, MSP-200 Jul 16, MSP-900 FO Oct 16. You may go to New York initially, but you will be able to move fairly soon.

msprj2 03-28-2017 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by CODs4ever (Post 2330965)
Those guys/gals with 900+ company, did they also have over the 1000 FAR hours?

My guess is they look at FARs then then seniority if everyone has company time. If nobody has company time, they will reduce it hour by hour until they
Have the pilots. Once in class it's by seniority

FreightWasScary 03-28-2017 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by crjscum (Post 2330887)
Two months of lost CA wages would be nice too

Some of you are so annoying. If you don't have 1,000 company stop your B******* nobody is paying you CA wages.

Two Kings 03-28-2017 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by FreightWasScary (Post 2331029)
Some of you are so annoying. If you don't have 1,000 company stop your B******* nobody is paying you CA wages.

The entitlement is quite amazing. Especially since this company is only recently upgrading guys who waited 8+ years for the opportunity to be Captain.


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