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Old 02-18-2018 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by HighFlight
If you mean the approach briefings, they are in the ODH and require a brief for all approaches except ILS and LDA w/GS ( I think. It was posted up previous page or two).


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Without prior knowledge what company manual would direct you to compete these required briefings in the ODH?
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Old 02-18-2018 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by prex8390
Why do we need 20-25 captains a day next month for reserve in ATL? That seems like maximum overkill.
DTW is no better, 27 reserve lines built yet asking for 23 on multiple days and no less than 18 (on just 2 Saturdays) it's just the company refusing to allow any manipulations of schedules after PBS sticks the lubeless joy our way each month.
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Old 02-18-2018 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by flydiamond
A CDO is "last out, first back" flying. Fly the last flight out from the hub and first flight back while remaining on duty all night. You get about 5-7 hours at night at the hotel to rest but the entire day as well. You show at about 8:30pm and usually finish by about 8am, depending on the city and day of the week. Our CDO lines have about 3 of them in a row. Some guys just hang out at the crew room all day between them eliminating the need for a crash pad. 100% commutable since you'd don't need to arrive til late on first day of sequence and can leave very early on last day.

Edit: expect 12-13 days off.
Thanks for the insight.

12 hours in the crew room seems like a lot of time to kill! Do they have dedicated sleep rooms there? 3 of them in a row? Does that mean 3 overnights in a row? If you preference and get a CDO line, is that what the line is made up of the entire month? Or are there other types of trips mixed in throughout the month? How long are the usual legs on those CDO trips? And your edit...do CDO lines usually give 12-13 days off per month?

Sorry for all the newbie questions btw
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Old 02-18-2018 | 05:25 PM
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Does SKW do DL flying in NYC?
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Old 02-18-2018 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Mustang62
Thanks for the insight.

12 hours in the crew room seems like a lot of time to kill! Do they have dedicated sleep rooms there? 3 of them in a row? Does that mean 3 overnights in a row? If you preference and get a CDO line, is that what the line is made up of the entire month? Or are there other types of trips mixed in throughout the month? How long are the usual legs on those CDO trips? And your edit...do CDO lines usually give 12-13 days off per month?

Sorry for all the newbie questions btw
I know ATL and JFK have dedicated sleep rooms and I have heard LGA does as well, but have never found it. It would be 3 consecutive CDOs for 4 days of work (and 2 12 hour rest periods in base). Yes, CDOs usually give 12-13 days off a month but I have seen 11. You will not see CDO lines mixed with any sort of other flying. We do have something called a CNO line where CDOs are mixed with 7:15 pm to midnight reserve periods.
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Old 02-18-2018 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Reserve King
Does SKW do DL flying in NYC?
No. Skywest flies for Alaska in and out of LGA though.
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Old 02-18-2018 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Reserve King
Does SKW do DL flying in NYC?
They are starting to this year with their 175s, and are going to try (emphasis on try) to run it with outstation basing from ORD
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Old 02-18-2018 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by flydiamond
I know ATL and JFK have dedicated sleep rooms and I have heard LGA does as well, but have never found it. It would be 3 consecutive CDOs for 4 days of work (and 2 12 hour rest periods in base). Yes, CDOs usually give 12-13 days off a month but I have seen 11. You will not see CDO lines mixed with any sort of other flying. We do have something called a CNO line where CDOs are mixed with 7:15 pm to midnight reserve periods.
You don't sleep in the crew rooms (those are for napping and resting) or the dedicated sleep rooms which are for ready reserves. If you take a CDO, you fly on the back side of the clock and it's more like 3-5 hours in a hotel as often the plane you are supposed to fly is running behind.

When you bring the flight back to the hub in the morning you are off duty in your base which means YOU have to find somewhere to sleep that is not at the airport.
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Old 02-18-2018 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by FODhopper
You don't sleep in the crew rooms (those are for napping and resting) or the dedicated sleep rooms which are for ready reserves. If you take a CDO, you fly on the back side of the clock and it's more like 3-5 hours in a hotel as often the plane you are supposed to fly is running behind.

When you bring the flight back to the hub in the morning you are off duty in your base which means YOU have to find somewhere to sleep that is not at the airport.
I’ve napped in the sleep rooms in all bases and I guarantee I haven’t sat ready reserve at more than a couple. Is their some sort of punishment I should expect? Pretty firm statement you made there, should I assume you hold the keys? While I’m asking, how do I differentiate my “nap” sleep from my “sleep” sleep? When is rest just rest and not sleep? Enlighten us
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Old 02-18-2018 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by FODhopper
You don't sleep in the crew rooms (those are for napping and resting) or the dedicated sleep rooms which are for ready reserves. If you take a CDO, you fly on the back side of the clock and it's more like 3-5 hours in a hotel as often the plane you are supposed to fly is running behind.

When you bring the flight back to the hub in the morning you are off duty in your base which means YOU have to find somewhere to sleep that is not at the airport.
Aka they suck. Unless your house is near the airport. I tried the “napping” during the day in the crew room and it was completely unhealthy. But some people love them.
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