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Old 06-03-2017, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by macciJ View Post
Any one have a clue when the next vacancy 17-03 might come out?

FYI ... proposed flying in July on the 200

atl-977 (also seeing an increase on the 900 in atl)
dtw-1264
jfk-609l
ga-424
msp-961
What do these numbers mean? I though no 900's in ATL?
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Old 06-03-2017, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Bornflying View Post
What do these numbers mean? I though no 900's in ATL?
900s fly through Atlanta, but there is no crew base there, no pairings built from it. Notable increases in 2/9 flying in ATL for July.

Regarding 17-03, post a few pages back said mid-July, that's the first I've heard.
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Old 06-03-2017, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by stillcantfly View Post
Ding ding ding we have a winner!!! Sorry I'm not going to work for free more then I have to. 45 prior for free....3 hour sits for free.... delays for WX for free......(unless blocked out) I come to work to make money not donate my time.
That's exactly what I said when I saw that, I usually try and follow the rules but there's no way. Last time I was in LGA we waited 45 minutes on the blast fence for ramp to clear the alleyway. There's no way in heck I'm giving up 45 minutes of pay because of delta's tracking policy...
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Old 06-03-2017, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Yumyum View Post
Nah there will be a couple FOM nuggets out there.
Those will be the guys I avoid. As someone else stated, there are days you will wait 30 mins or more to push, especially in LGA. Heck, a few weeks ago in MSP, where they're usually on their game, we waited 35 mins to push because they were short staffed. Only a fool will work for free in my opinion.
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Old 06-03-2017, 03:00 PM
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Then we are all fools. We already show up 45 minutes early to start our jobs so that we may block out on time. At one or two flights, that's not a big deal. But have a 6-leg day, and we are giving up a lot of valuable unpaid minutes of our lives.

Start paying us the 45 minutes prior to block out, and I have not a problem with waiting to drop the brake.

OTOH, it is also frustrating to fly with CAs who refuse to drop the brake more than 4 minutes prior to scheduled time. We can gain so much more advantage over A-0 by starting to move on the ground than by wasting fuel in the air trying to fly faster.

And it's also annoying when they don't want to send an A/C/S message when the rampers walk away from the plane after the door is closed.

Originally Posted by seminolepilot View Post
Those will be the guys I avoid. As someone else stated, there are days you will wait 30 mins or more to push, especially in LGA. Heck, a few weeks ago in MSP, where they're usually on their game, we waited 35 mins to push because they were short staffed. Only a fool will work for free in my opinion.
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Old 06-03-2017, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by HighFlight View Post
Then we are all fools. We already show up 45 minutes early to start our jobs so that we may block out on time. At one or two flights, that's not a big deal. But have a 6-leg day, and we are giving up a lot of valuable unpaid minutes of our lives.

Start paying us the 45 minutes prior to block out, and I have not a problem with waiting to drop the brake.

OTOH, it is also frustrating to fly with CAs who refuse to drop the brake more than 4 minutes prior to scheduled time. We can gain so much more advantage over A-0 by starting to move on the ground than by wasting fuel in the air trying to fly faster.

And it's also annoying when they don't want to send an A/C/S message when the rampers walk away from the plane after the door is closed.
I agree, we should get paid for showing up 45 prior to block out. Will it happen? No, because it's the industry standard to start getting paid after blocking out. But why should we give the company more of our time than they're already getting? I usually ask if they want me to send a ACARS message. If they say no, then oh well. Doesn't make me much of a difference. I also think this is the way Delta does things when it comes to releasing the brake, or at least they did a few years ago so this may just be one of those things that we're doing to align our operations with Delta operations. It would be nice to know who's going to get blamed when the D0 takes a dump.
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Old 06-03-2017, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Rayeli View Post
That's exactly what I said when I saw that, I usually try and follow the rules but there's no way. Last time I was in LGA we waited 45 minutes on the blast fence for ramp to clear the alleyway. There's no way in heck I'm giving up 45 minutes of pay because of delta's tracking policy...
That's the dumbest thing I think they've ever come up with. I'd be happy to send a acars message with delay information. I'm not sure why that isn't enough for tracking purposes? But if people are on the plane we are responsible for them, and we sure as h$11 should be getting paid for it
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Old 06-03-2017, 05:01 PM
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They already got us on the arrivals. The new ACARS version is blockings us in when the cargo door opens. The 10 minutes with the door closed while LGA gets the pink tags in order is no longer paid.
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Old 06-03-2017, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by slowyourroll View Post
They already got us on the arrivals. The new ACARS version is blockings us in when the cargo door opens. The 10 minutes with the door closed while LGA gets the pink tags in order is no longer paid.
After trying some different ways I think this is what works to get every minute:
Before opening the door, drop the brake and then reset it. Then open the door with the brake still set.
I think it looks at the last time the parking brake was applied before the door opening. So if you reset it you should get all your time. Not 100% sure this is how it works, but it seems to have done the trick for me.
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Old 06-03-2017, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by SEMIslave View Post
After trying some different ways I think this is what works to get every minute:
Before opening the door, drop the brake and then reset it. Then open the door with the brake still set.
I think it looks at the last time the parking brake was applied before the door opening. So if you reset it you should get all your time. Not 100% sure this is how it works, but it seems to have done the trick for me.
I'll try it. Thought I did that yesterday but came up 7 short. The block in time matched the time the cargo door opened.

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