It doesn't make logical sense, if I land early, I might as well go wait in the pad, rather than slow all arriving traffic into the hub to meet a 10min landing window. If ground crews are not available when we land, that's not our job to supervise the ramp staff.
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
(Post 2542394)
It doesn't make logical sense, if I land early, I might as well go wait in the pad, rather than slow all arriving traffic into the hub to meet a 10min landing window. If ground crews are not available when we land, that's not our job to supervise the ramp staff.
The passengers likely won't notice if we take 5 or 10 minutes extra aloft but if we make the "short of the gate" PA they notice. I'm just guessing that's what they're trying to accomplish with this. They could just tell us to taxi slow... |
Originally Posted by Blueskies21
(Post 2542397)
Going to the pad vs slowing aloft saves fuel
Any speed faster than LRC wastes fuel for the distance flown, as does running the engines while sitting still. |
This argument is like debating over if we should haul ass and wait in the parking lot for the store to open, or drive a little slower and pull in right when it opens. Yeah there’s the off chance that the time we haul ass the overzealous employee opens up the store early, but not nearly as common as we hope.
If the company says be aware of your landing window and do what you can to land in it to help us out on the ground in LGA, ya know what? I’m gonna try. I’d much rather fly a bit slower and maybe make 50% less “we’re waiting on a gate announcements” and then have the whole plane growl at us on the way out |
Originally Posted by Two Kings
(Post 2542152)
It feels like it’s getting kinda of ridiculous. I don’t know for certain but I feel like Delta pilots don’t deal with a tenth of this BS. I don’t see a deck of cards attached to their lanyards.
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Originally Posted by HeyOneTaco
(Post 2542423)
This argument is like debating over if we should haul ass and wait in the parking lot for the store to open, or drive a little slower and pull in right when it opens. Yeah there’s the off chance that the time we haul ass the overzealous employee opens up the store early, but not nearly as common as we hope.
If the company says be aware of your landing window and do what you can to land in it to help us out on the ground in LGA, ya know what? I’m gonna try. I’d much rather fly a bit slower and maybe make 50% less “we’re waiting on a gate announcements” and then have the whole plane growl at us on the way out |
Originally Posted by Iceberg
(Post 2542486)
All Delta releases have a planned landing window. Delta is where the WARTS/NATS came from. Delta pilots have to put name tags on straight too. They have to provide customer service to promote the brand. They have to put name tags on straight and wear hats (by the book, not just at a mustache’s suggestion.) There is a lot more buttons on their blazers too. Maybe instead of cards on a necklace, they just remember to look at the paperwork...
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Originally Posted by vessbot
(Post 2542411)
How is that?
Any speed faster than LRC wastes fuel for the distance flown, as does running the engines while sitting still. I was thinking increased fuel flow in flight vs in the pad but to get to the pad early, you already had the increased fuel flow from the higher speed flight. So you lose twice. |
Nobody is getting fired or a talking to for not doing what most people here define as “customer service,” which is likely limited to doing gate announcements and standing in the galley during the welcome PA.
When merited, gate announcements are probably helpful and take about 5 seconds of our time. Who cares. People on this forum seem to think that we are riddled with extraneous customer service responsibilities. I disagree. |
Originally Posted by vessbot
(Post 2542411)
How is that?
Any speed faster than LRC wastes fuel for the distance flown, as does running the engines while sitting still. Maybe the landing window non-sense makes sense at a gate constricted airport like LGA or JFK, but in ATL, I'm not so sure. |
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