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IAFDOF 03-28-2020 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by ninerdriver (Post 3015426)
They have to put you in a hotel for each night in the middle of your pairing. You aren't required to stay in the airport for that whole time, and you don't have to go to the airport each day if you don't get a flight assignment.

Oh joy, I’ve always wanted to live in an airport hotel!

What a joke, btw. The company balks at SIL’s or anything that might balance cost savings and QOL, but they’re gonna pay to put me in a hotel with per diem all month while I fly 11 block hours.

JulesWinfield 03-28-2020 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by IAFDOF (Post 3015451)
Oh joy, I’ve always wanted to live in an airport hotel!

Isn't that what you do every trip?

IAFDOF 03-28-2020 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by JulesWinfield (Post 3015479)
Isn't that what you do every trip?

Of course not. I fly all day, sleep in the hotel, then leave to fly again. Weeks and weeks of AVL in a hotel is literally living 24 hours, days at a time in a hotel room. That’s a completely different experience.

msprj2 03-28-2020 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by IAFDOF (Post 3015481)
Of course not. I fly all day, sleep in the hotel, then leave to fly again. Weeks and weeks of AVL in a hotel is literally living 24 hours, days at a time in a hotel room. That’s a completely different experience.

There are people in hospitals and others in the morgue and you’re complaining about a hotel? Grow up

ZR29907 03-28-2020 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by IAFDOF (Post 3015481)
Of course not. I fly all day, sleep in the hotel, then leave to fly again. Weeks and weeks of AVL in a hotel is literally living 24 hours, days at a time in a hotel room. That’s a completely different experience.

Wow, looks like being employed, getting paid, and getting a hotel are too much for you. I know 1,064 guys that would swap with you in a heartbeat.. settle down, snowflake.

IAFDOF 03-28-2020 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by msprj2 (Post 3015511)
There arepeople in hospitals and others in the morgue and you’re complaining about a hotel? Grow up

LOL “grow up” says someone on APC. Classic.


Originally Posted by ZR29907 (Post 3015541)
Wow, looks like being employed, getting paid, and getting a hotel are too much for you.

Yes, that’s EXACTLY what I’m saying, thank you! Man, it’s like you’re *inside* my mind!

Yumyum 03-28-2020 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by IAFDOF (Post 3015415)
So if you get AVL all month in your base, but you don’t actually live in-base... someone actually expects you to commute back and forth every day? That’s just ready reserve for lineholders. How is THAT okay?


Any provisions for commuting in on the first day for AVL? No two hour call out... Too bad they couldn’t put us all on LCR. As much as I want to complain I know they are busting their buns. Tough times but for the record....no effing pay cuts !!!!!!!

overqualified52 03-28-2020 09:37 PM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 3015329)
Everyone probably. The issue is that WideBody flying is not coming back for a long time. Domestic should recover once a vaccine is available. Regionals will be required to hold market share until demand returns for mainline aircraft, or mainline takes our airplanes, and mainline flies the 76 seaters.

They won’t get rid of us . They certainly are not going to pay a mainline guy 170 dollars an hour to fly the RJ 7/9’s , which is what their pay rate would be . Now granted ,that’s what we should make , LOL . But I think you are correct that out of the ashes of this thing that The name “Endeavor” and the operating certificate will be gone and it , along with us, will just fold into mainline and Delta will part ways with skyPest and Republic unfortunately will probably not survive this. There were 1400 retirements scheduled for 2020/21 and I think many more guys will early retire , especially if they offer early buy outs. So they can easily fold 1800 Endeavor pilots into the mix and just make the smallest mainline the 7’s/9’s and find some kind of middle ground on pay rates and then if it’s all mainline there is no more scope clause and they could get 90 seaters as well . So hang in there everyone . My personal opinion is we will all come out better off .or I could be wrong and we will all be flying rubber dog **** out of Hong Kong on a Convair 540.

JulesWinfield 03-29-2020 03:23 AM


Originally Posted by overqualified52 (Post 3015666)
They won’t get rid of us . They certainly are not going to pay a mainline guy 170 dollars an hour to fly the RJ 7/9’s , which is what their pay rate would be . Now granted ,that’s what we should make , LOL . But I think you are correct that out of the ashes of this thing that The name “Endeavor” and the operating certificate will be gone and it , along with us, will just fold into mainline and Delta will part ways with skyPest and Republic unfortunately will probably not survive this. There were 1400 retirements scheduled for 2020/21 and I think many more guys will early retire , especially if they offer early buy outs. So they can easily fold 1800 Endeavor pilots into the mix and just make the smallest mainline the 7’s/9’s and find some kind of middle ground on pay rates and then if it’s all mainline there is no more scope clause and they could get 90 seaters as well . So hang in there everyone . My personal opinion is we will all come out better off .or I could be wrong and we will all be flying rubber dog **** out of Hong Kong on a Convair 540.

Whatever you're smoking, probably isn't legal.

pangolin 03-29-2020 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by overqualified52 (Post 3015666)
They won’t get rid of us . They certainly are not going to pay a mainline guy 170 dollars an hour to fly the RJ 7/9’s , which is what their pay rate would be . Now granted ,that’s what we should make , LOL . But I think you are correct that out of the ashes of this thing that The name “Endeavor” and the operating certificate will be gone and it , along with us, will just fold into mainline and Delta will part ways with skyPest and Republic unfortunately will probably not survive this. There were 1400 retirements scheduled for 2020/21 and I think many more guys will early retire , especially if they offer early buy outs. So they can easily fold 1800 Endeavor pilots into the mix and just make the smallest mainline the 7’s/9’s and find some kind of middle ground on pay rates and then if it’s all mainline there is no more scope clause and they could get 90 seaters as well . So hang in there everyone . My personal opinion is we will all come out better off .or I could be wrong and we will all be flying rubber dog **** out of Hong Kong on a Convair 540.

79 seat RJs can be configured for more seats. Since delta owns them they can do what they like.


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