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Knight14 08-30-2021 06:59 AM

For the ATL 900 FOs, with that amount of short leg flying out of ATL, can you folks actually average 85-90 block hours per month in normal circumstances ? Or is it impossible ? Especially for someone who’s very junior.

Zerosilver84 08-30-2021 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by Knight14 (Post 3287763)
For the ATL 900 FOs, with that amount of short leg flying out of ATL, can you folks actually average 85-90 block hours per month in normal circumstances ? Or is it impossible ? Especially for someone who’s very junior.

Junior atl900 line holder.. Min days off and lucky to hit 77 credit hrs. Even during credit push...actually dunno if September was a credit push but still. I have 3 days next month where I break min day...and it's not by much.. 30 min over is the most

Knight14 08-30-2021 07:42 AM


Originally Posted by Zerosilver84 (Post 3287784)
Junior atl900 line holder.. Min days off and lucky to hit 77 credit hrs. Even during credit push...actually dunno if September was a credit push but still. I have 3 days next month where I break min day...and it's not by much.. 30 min over is the most

Ouch ! I hope it gets better.

Zerosilver84 08-30-2021 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by Knight14 (Post 3287794)
Ouch ! I hope it gets better.


Maybe in the spring

Green Needles 08-30-2021 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by Zerosilver84 (Post 3287795)
Maybe in the spring

Doubtful. Hiring is just starting to ramp up at the majors. That will only make our staffing situation worse.

Knight14 08-30-2021 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by Green Needles (Post 3287821)
Doubtful. Hiring is just starting to ramp up at the majors. That will only make our staffing situation worse.

Sorry i’m asking this question from the point of view of a junior fo so feel free to correct me if i’m wrong. Doesn’t that mean more attrition which leads to less pilots at EDV which means more flying assigned for each pilot ? Wouldn’t that make trips more efficient ? Or is it the nature of flying that EDV does (mostly short legs) that would make it harder for the trips to be more efficient?

KirillTheThrill 08-30-2021 09:23 AM


Originally Posted by Knight14 (Post 3287828)
Sorry i’m asking this question from the point of view of a junior fo so feel free to correct me if i’m wrong. Doesn’t that mean more attrition which leads to less pilots at EDV which means more flying assigned for each pilot ? Wouldn’t that make trips more efficient ? Or is it the nature of flying that EDV does (mostly short legs) that would make it harder for the trips to be more efficient?

Yeah that’s all fun and games until you get junior manned or continuously displaced off trips.

ninerdriver 08-30-2021 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by Knight14 (Post 3287828)
Sorry i’m asking this question from the point of view of a junior fo so feel free to correct me if i’m wrong. Doesn’t that mean more attrition which leads to less pilots at EDV which means more flying assigned for each pilot ? Wouldn’t that make trips more efficient ? Or is it the nature of flying that EDV does (mostly short legs) that would make it harder for the trips to be more efficient?

It's the nature of the flying. There's only so much block you can get when you're flying back and forth to CHA, AGS, and TYS all day. Historically, it gets a little better in the winter as mainline flying scales back. Hard to tell whether that'll be the case this year.

Green Needles 08-30-2021 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by Knight14 (Post 3287828)
Sorry i’m asking this question from the point of view of a junior fo so feel free to correct me if i’m wrong. Doesn’t that mean more attrition which leads to less pilots at EDV which means more flying assigned for each pilot ? Wouldn’t that make trips more efficient ? Or is it the nature of flying that EDV does (mostly short legs) that would make it harder for the trips to be more efficient?


The scheduling is very inefficient. Lots of days worked with few hour per day. It's common to see just two legs a day blocking less than min day (4 hrs pay). I don't know why they don't improve efficiency. We also get a fair amount of 10-12 hour duty days that are only 4 hours of credit.

Zerosilver84 08-30-2021 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by Green Needles (Post 3287821)
Doubtful. Hiring is just starting to ramp up at the majors. That will only make our staffing situation worse.

While I do agree...I could see it getting a little bit better just because the gain in senority. But I'm also wishful thinking


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