Thanks. I happened to see a Go Jet ad on here as I was reading all the back-and-forth about pay increases, and posted. Didn't realize that was DEC pay.

I wonder what PDT FYFO pay is with profit sharing and per diem added in?

Profit sharing and especially per diem should never be included in salary calculations.

XI agree. But they ARE income. Just not guaranteed. But with them, one will make more than $60K as a FYFO. But to keep it on a level field, his statement that no regional pays more than $60K FYFO is true. But even at that level, they are paying more than EDV is now. Which is great for them, and hopefully gets factored into whatever pay rate we end up getting here.


Kind of like flight benefits, which are hard to nail down to a $$ amount, but I know that I save a LOT of money using them. Or to put it another way, I am able to do things and go places that otherwise I would be unable to without said flight bennies.

Anyone know today's SSP #'s ?

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Wrong on both accounts..

1st year pay at Envoy: $37.90 ($34,110 annually)

Bonuses UP TO $22,100 and that's only if you meet a bunch of requirements mainly previous 121 time.

Assuming you qualify that's $56,210 first year and it decreases second year to $47,800 second year, and third year, and decreases even further to $37,800 fourth year

GoJet is $36.50 ($32,850 annually) plus $12k signing bonus so $44,850 annually. Decreases to $35,100 second year


Compared to Endeavor which is guaranteed at $57,000 for everyone regardless of any qualifiers for a bonus. Slight decrease to $53k year two which is still leaps and bounds above the rest.


You can argue career progression and whatnot but it's a fact that Endeavor still offers the best pay package in the industry

*Sigh* no they aren't...

Piedmont first year pay $38.80 X 75 X 12 = $34,920 plus UP TO a $20k bonus but not everyone gets that (previous 121)... Assuming you qualify that's $54,920. If you don't have previous 121 time it's $34,920 + $16,200 bonus = $51,120

Second year drops to $47800


So still way less than Endeavor which is $57k minimum guaranteed without any need to qualify for a bonus.. $53k second year

I'm not arguing that EDV isn't the best, pay attention to what I am saying. We raised ours, they followed suit. We raised ours again, to the max we can without a new contract. Are you. Happy to sit here and rest on your laurels? I'm not. I want to see us raise again, thru straight pay, to over $60K FYFO pay, and equivalent raise for every pilot on property. Enough of this higher bonus pay to get folks in the door BS.

And your numbers are off a tad. PDT and ENY advertise $60K before Per diem. Only EDV uses per diem of $3K to raise their advertised pay to $60K as the others do.

Just finished Indoc...now home in my own bed but woke up screaming "SWOA! Get me the 10-7!"...Nine days off then systems.