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seminolepilot 01-12-2017 12:29 PM

I don't think Gojet is going anywhere. They'll be like Mesa. A crappy airline that won't die. While Gojet probably isn't as bad as people make it out to be on here I wouldn't work there. I also wouldn't move for a regional job. Just ask some MEM folks here how that worked out. Heck ask some Delta employees who were DFW based years ago.

gojo 01-12-2017 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by FreightWasScary (Post 2279954)
Recommending someone to work at Gojet is probably not the best career advice. Not giving good career advice is unprofessional. Stupidity is sometimes do to the lack of knowledge. Lack of knowledge leads to bad career advice. Professionalism i do it well. Career advice come to Endeavor not Gojets

I didn't read it as a recommendation. I thought it was just think about living in base verses commuting. But maybe I'm not looking at the right post

MTAGA 01-12-2017 04:25 PM

Hey folks, I'm starting at Endeavor in a couple weeks and I'm curious if anyone on property can speak on the current reserve timeline for the 200 vs the 900 out of the NY bases.

Also, is there a large enough discrepancy on legs per day and quality of overnights to additionally sway the bidding option towards either aircraft. Thanks in advance.

MidLife 01-12-2017 05:14 PM

Just got a CJO @ EDV today - trying to collect facts on the 4 choices
LGA/JFK 200/900 - February Class date
facts and opinions welcome. PM if unwilling to share publicly

CODs4ever 01-12-2017 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by MidLife (Post 2280145)
Just got a CJO @ EDV today - trying to collect facts on the 4 choices
LGA/JFK 200/900 - February Class date
facts and opinions welcome. PM if unwilling to share publicly

Congrats! I think if you go for the CRJ out of New York, you'll be happy with that choice.

On a more serious note....900 JFK for better QOL.

GreenerPastures 01-12-2017 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by MidLife (Post 2280145)
Just got a CJO @ EDV today - trying to collect facts on the 4 choices
LGA/JFK 200/900 - February Class date
facts and opinions welcome. PM if unwilling to share publicly

Congrats on the CJO.
200s are junior to 900s, so you'd almost assuredly come off reserve quicker on the 200. I sat reserve 1 month on the 200 in 2015. 900 Pilots in my class sat for 3 to 5 months depending on base. I don't know what the reserve times are now.
I have buds that came through 200 training with me that have since upgraded to the 900 once they could hold a decent line on the 900. They like the 900 much better. They fly longer legs on average and have more efficient lines (more block time & less flights in roughly same amount of time). They also have VNAV I believe, a FADEC and first-class left-overs. I'm sure I'm leaving out some other perks. Man, I need to upgrade...
As far as LGA or JFK. I'm not based at either, so I can't speak about commuting to them, but I've flown in/out of both a lot. JFK is challenging, but LGA is it's own kind of beast. On one occasion, I logged more time taxiing at LGA than on the subsequent flight. I don't think that's very rare either. But the door was closed, so the meter was running... Some pilots get tired of dealing with the circus at LGA, so they avoid it. Some don't mind. You'll be busy at either JFK or LGA. Also, Both JFK and LGA have cool visual approaches, but I really enjoy LGA's Hudson River tour at 4000'.
Keep in mind, commuting sucks, and sitting reserve as a commuter sucks even more. My advice, if you will be commuting, choose the base that is easiest to commute to, and choose the aircraft that will get you off reserve quicker. Then upgrade to the 900 when you can hold a line.

MidLife 01-12-2017 08:01 PM

Yeah - I am NYC area based - all my adult life - so JFK/LGA will be live in base for me - WOO HOO

HighFlight 01-12-2017 08:23 PM

Do retirement flight benefits carry over, or do they start over at day 1 with DL when one moves from EDV? If one has 3 years with EDV, does he then have only to fly for 7 years with DL to keep flight benefits for life, or the full 10 years with DL?

musketeer 01-13-2017 01:11 AM

If you are coming here now: 200 is the way to go if you want the Southern or MSP/DTW bases. 900 is the way to go if you want NYC. Check back in a year and remind me that I was right.

To highflight: They start over; EDV and DAL are completely separate companies.

To add to what I said months ago about the DGI program being completely worthless: There are 400+ pilots that have been hired under the DGI program, which requires you to be a captain for 2 years to get in line to interview at Delta. I want to explain the DGI.

The DGI is not contractual. It can be cancelled at any time. The DGI states that Delta can interview as little as 12/month. Unlike the SSP, where you interview and get hired, followed by waiting months/years for a class date, the DGI will be waiting months/years to interview followed by an immediate class date. All of that for a coin flip of a job offer.

I like working here, but if you live within a one leg commute of an AA base there is no reason not to go to an AA wholly owned regional. The pay is almost as good, the flight benefits are better, and there is a no interview flow.

Skittles9E 01-13-2017 04:17 AM


Originally Posted by musketeer (Post 2280284)
If you are coming here now: 200 is the way to go if you want the Southern or MSP/DTW bases. 900 is the way to go if you want NYC. Check back in a year and remind me that I was right.

To highflight: They start over; EDV and DAL are completely separate companies.

To add to what I said months ago about the DGI program being completely worthless: There are 400+ pilots that have been hired under the DGI program, which requires you to be a captain for 2 years to get in line to interview at Delta. I want to explain the DGI.

The DGI is not contractual. It can be cancelled at any time. The DGI states that Delta can interview as little as 12/month. Unlike the SSP, where you interview and get hired, followed by waiting months/years for a class date, the DGI will be waiting months/years to interview followed by an immediate class date. All of that for a coin flip of a job offer.

I like working here, but if you live within a one leg commute of an AA base there is no reason not to go to an AA wholly owned regional. The pay is almost as good, the flight benefits are better, and there is a no interview flow.

Saying that you will wait months/years to interview under the DGI is disengenous. Let's assume a worst case scenario where only 12 are allowed to interview a month. What are the odds that HUNDREDS of people hit the 24 month captain requirement at the same time you do? This is all guesswork but I can't see interviews being delayed more than 3-5 months at the absolute latest. And once you interview and get a CJO you are put right in the off the street pool.


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