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HighFlight 12-23-2016 09:32 AM

Well, feel free to go, we will move up more quickly. ;)

J/K, no we need you. And that is why I personally would love to see the bonuses go away and prefer a pay hike across the board, equal to what we are making today, or higher (preferably, and by the time it happens, possible, I think).

I mean, bonuses are nice, but who the heck wants to take a pay cut their second year? And what pilot already on property wants to see a new hire making $5-20K more than they did just a few months or years ago? Give us a pay rate that makes us competitive, preferably industry-leading, like $73 an hour for a FYFO and $103 for a FYCA. Then, if you want to be able to affect hiring, authorize a bonus on top of that basic pay rate for all.

Will it happen? Probably not. Once can dream. But I know for DARN sure those above us will never just give it to us unless we ask for it.


Originally Posted by FreightWasScary (Post 2268114)
I keep hearing all this FO pay stuff. I understand we need to attract people but let's talk about CA rates.... gotta keep us to stay or maybe they want us to go idk?


Nantonaku 12-23-2016 09:32 AM

Is the company already sending out company issued iPads?

whoareyou311 12-23-2016 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by Nantonaku (Post 2268288)
Is the company already sending out company issued iPads?

I think they said starting in january

KSCessnaDriver 12-23-2016 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by Slaveaway (Post 2268245)
Right now people are upgrading with the FAR 1,000 and company mins are being reduced to 300 company. And a descent amount of (30?) went unfilled on the last bid.

The unfilled amount wasn't because people weren't qualified, they were because the company chose to not fill them, for what its worth.

Skittles9E 12-23-2016 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by whoareyou311 (Post 2268321)
I think they said starting in january

Does anyone know if this is going to be a Jan 1 thing or a "sometime in January" thing.

stillcantfly 12-23-2016 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by Skittles9E (Post 2268413)
Does anyone know if this is going to be a Jan 1 thing or a "sometime in January" thing.

My guess seeing how this whole iPad thing has gone it's a sometime in January....

WhiskeyKilo 12-23-2016 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by Skittles9E (Post 2268413)
Does anyone know if this is going to be a Jan 1 thing or a "sometime in January" thing.

Test program guy here; sometime in January. Need to get all of the mounts in the airplanes plus spares in bases and all the iPads need to be in base and accounted for before they can be distributed.

madeinUSA 12-23-2016 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by RunnerMark (Post 2268183)
Realistic upgrade time for someone hired in January 2017?

How much time do you have?

iamhim 12-23-2016 03:43 PM

Any one out here trying to help me out with procedures and some info on how you prepped for FTD? Besides the "know your flows and limitations" idea. Like does any one have an organized list of FFOD and procedures they could help out with or email or anything. Im kind of struggling with gathering it all together since its scattered, if you know what i mean. Please and Thanks.


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aviationfrk 12-23-2016 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by iamhim (Post 2268482)
Any one out here trying to help me out with procedures and some info on how you prepped for FTD? Besides the "know your flows and limitations" idea. Like does any one have an organized list of FFOD and procedures they could help out with or email or anything. Im kind of struggling with gathering it all together since its scattered, if you know what i mean. Please and Thanks.


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All the FFOD procedures you need to know are on the front cover of the checklist. They all are in addition to the PM flow. Oh, this is all from the 900 CFM so the pages might be different in the 200.

Start off with this it will get you ready to push back from the gate: (assume all your FTD and sim sessions are FFOD)

showing up to a cold dark cockpit need to do the following to get the aircraft powered up:
CFM 3-25 Interior inspection*
CFM 4-13 *Electrical power up (apu or ground power) (dont forget to read notes about apu fire check and battery level to start)
CFM 3-27 Exterior inspection (might not need for sim bus still part of procedure)

once those are done need to check certain things on your side of the cockpit:
CFM 3-41 CA preflight (not really necessary but CA has certain things to check)
CFM 3-44 FO preflight

then, depending who is PM or PF you have a few more things to do:
CFM 3-32 PF procedure (pretty much programming FMS)
CFM 3-35 PM procedure (where all the FFOD are and configuring the panel) (most of the FFOD proceudres are in chapter 4)

after all that is done do the (CFM 7-11) clearance verification and (FOM 8-67) departure brief (WARTS).

for the FTD not too many emergency procedures will be introduced but you should be able to go from a cold-dark cockpit, takeoff, cruise, shoot an ils, taxi to the gate, and shut down. once you can do that you will be fine in the FTD. its been a while but i believe the first FTD lesson was just from powerup to takeoff. every lesson becomes further and further into a flight till at the last FTD lesson its an entire flight.

i agree everything is all over the place but you have to dig for it.

A couple of other things that are annoying:

The departure and arrival briefs are in the FOM starting on page 8-67
flap retraction speeds on 7-20
alot of additional procedures are in chapter 4 of the CFM

Feel free to PM me if you have a question or need help.


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