Originally Posted by daOldMan

Some do care. Piedmont is not interviewing anyone with more than 2 failures.

https://www.pilothiring.com/pilot-jo...-145-7404.html

Minimum qualifications for consideration include:
· 1500 total hours for applicants
· Possess a commercial multi-engine license, an instrument rating, and an English Proficient Endorsement
· Passport
· FCC Radiotelephone Operator Permit
· Current First Class Medical Certificate
· No DUI’s in the last five years
· No more than two notices of disapproval

Originally Posted by daOldMan

Some do care. Piedmont is not interviewing anyone with more than 2 failures.

https://www.pilothiring.com/pilot-jo...-145-7404.html

Minimum qualifications for consideration include:
· 1500 total hours for applicants
· Possess a commercial multi-engine license, an instrument rating, and an English Proficient Endorsement
· Passport
· FCC Radiotelephone Operator Permit
· Current First Class Medical Certificate
· No DUI’s in the last five years
· No more than two notices of disapproval

Originally Posted by Antoine137

Hello everyone. Yes, this my first post, but I have been a long time lurker on the site. This will be a long post, so for those of you who are willing to stick with it and provide guidance or advice, I appreciate it. Since I have viewed the site a lot, I am aware of a couple of things right up front. I have already read the many pages of Endeavor's and Envoy's current states. I have done as much research as I can. I need perspectives from people who have "been there" or who are "living it". Hindsight is 20/20, and I know no one can predict the future, but if you seek counsel and go in knowing as much as you can, usually things turn out. So....

I live in Muskegon, MI (KMKG), and I have my ATP. I have DTW (3.5 hr drive), ORD (3.5 hr drive), and GRR (1 hr drive) near me. I also have friends and a place I could stay in DFW. I love Michigan in the summer and Texas in the winter. I would rather not be in NYC, but I guess both airlines are sending people there. I have three checkride failures (CFI).

Ideally, I would eventually like to be based in ORD or DTW, but I wouldn't mind DFW for training and sitting reserve. I would need a crashpad for ORD, DTW, or NYC reserve.

Endeavor:
Pros
My buddy works for them and says they are a great group of people to work with
Top pay now
Cons
I may never get to a major with my checkride failures
Retention bonus could go away

Envoy:
Pros
DFW would be best for reserve. No crashpad, no commute.
Flow to AA
Travel benefits
Cons
Reserve seems pretty long
People (on this site) seem like they hate their schedules/lines
Pay drop 2nd year
Could the flow go away?

On a related note, I have a training contract for $8,300 which is up in 5 months. Is it worth it to pay that money back and get ahead in seniority or should I wait?

Thank you for making it this far. I know ultimately I have to make the decision, but any insight is fully appreciated.

Originally Posted by daOldMan

It was current as of last week. They may have changed their "minimum" requirements, but likely not their "preferred" requirements.

Originally Posted by Armypilotc12

No biggie. Maybe the mil time and turbine PIC override those guys failures. Who knows.

Originally Posted by Armypilotc12

Actually underneath under preferred it states college degree. So nothing really different. I had a guy that did his airline apps, accident on his record, three failures, offered interview. So they are calling.

Originally Posted by daOldMan

At what company?

Originally Posted by Armypilotc12

Sorry, I've kind of derailed the thread, all I wanted to do was just offer some assurance to the poster that checkride failures are not all doom and gloom. Own it and correct it. Have a good head on your shoulders and work hard and good things will come. Patience and a little luck will help out immensely. I wish you the best.