Facts envoy sked/rsv times, numbers don't lie
04-25-2017, 06:39 AM
#1
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Facts envoy sked/rsv times, numbers don't lie
The below chart has both April 2017 and May 2016 to compare May 2017’s schedules to.
Block Hours
DFW 145
DFW 175
ORD 145
LGA 145
ORD CRJ
Totals
4/2017
6768
9434
4736
5449
8469
34856
5/2017
7505
9588
3561
6172
8148
34974
Change
+737
+154
-1175
-723
+1127.35
+118
5/2016
12258
2931
11998
0
9348
36535
16 v. 17
-4753
+6657
-8437
+6172
+1200
-1561
May.
2017
Lines
Hard Lines
Relief/
Comp.
Avg. Credit
Avg. Days Off
Avg. Block Per Day
Lines w/ Sat+Sun Off
DFW EMJ
103
(+8)
1/6
(e/+1)
80.59
(+2.31)
13.9
(+.2)
4.31
(-.05)
15
(-5)
DFW 175
125
(+8)
1/7
(e/+1)
80.16
(+4.76)
14.1
(+1.61)
4.29
(+.14)
19
(+14)
LGA 145
71
(+1)
1/3
(e/e)
88.04
(+7.7)
14
(even)
5.02
(+.52)
10
(-1)
ORD EMJ
49
(-17)
1/2
(e/-1)
80.25
(-.91)
14
(+.40)
4.31
(-.10)
10
(-2)
ORD CRJ
108
(+3)
1/2
(e/e)
75.21
(-1.25)
14.3
(+1.61)
4.29
(+.12)
22
(+20)
Status
# of lines
Avg. Credit
Avg. DO
DFW 145
May ‘16
169
72.53
14.63
May ‘17
103 (-66)
80.59
13.9
DFW 175
May ‘16
41
71.49
13.85
May ‘17
125 (+84)
80.16
14.1
ORD 145
May ‘16
166
72.28
14.06
May ‘17
49 (-117)
80.25
14
LGA 145
May ‘16
n/a
n/a
n/a
May ‘17
71 (+71)
88.04
14
ORD CRJ
May ‘16
120
77.90
12.97
May ‘17
108 (-18)
75.21
14.3
Net +/-
-28
>~5.50
excluding LGA
>.30
Jr Lineholder DFL
11/21/16
Jr Status holder DFL
12/5/16
Jr Lineholder DCL
3/3/08
Jr Status holder DCL
4/14/08
Jr Lineholder DFE
10/19/15
Jr Status holder DFE
10/10/16
Jr Lineholder DCE
7/9/07
Jr Status holder DCE
2/14/11
Jr Lineholder OFE
11/10/14
Jr Status holder OFE
10/24/16
Jr Lineholder OCE
1/8/07
Jr Status holder OCE
11/22/10
Jr Lineholder OFC
9/12/16
Jr Status holder OFC
12/5/16
Jr Lineholder OCC
3/3/08
Jr Status holder OCC
6/7/10
Jr Lineholder NFE
11/21/16
Jr Status holder NFE
11/21/16
Jr Lineholder NCE
10/25/10
Jr Status holder NCE
2/28/11
The 4/30/2016 MEC NewsBlast’s tabulation totaled 1840 total pilots on property. Compare that to today’s 1915. We have more pilots, doing less flying. One could argue that we are getting more inefficient in our schedules, others could point to the training bubbles we are currently experiencing. Nevertheless, Envoy desperately needs to streamline the training footprint and process for all fleets. On the 145, FOs currently completing IOE were hired in late December. This four-month average is unsustainable, and we sincerely hope the addition of the simulator in France can help the backlog.
Average line values are trending upwards as we enter the summer months, and days off are hovering (on average) around 14, which is much improved from late summer last year, but relatively flat progress overall from year to year. In October of last year, the average days off were hovering around 12 for our airline.
Sourse Union email last night
Block Hours
DFW 145
DFW 175
ORD 145
LGA 145
ORD CRJ
Totals
4/2017
6768
9434
4736
5449
8469
34856
5/2017
7505
9588
3561
6172
8148
34974
Change
+737
+154
-1175
-723
+1127.35
+118
5/2016
12258
2931
11998
0
9348
36535
16 v. 17
-4753
+6657
-8437
+6172
+1200
-1561
May.
2017
Lines
Hard Lines
Relief/
Comp.
Avg. Credit
Avg. Days Off
Avg. Block Per Day
Lines w/ Sat+Sun Off
DFW EMJ
103
(+8)
1/6
(e/+1)
80.59
(+2.31)
13.9
(+.2)
4.31
(-.05)
15
(-5)
DFW 175
125
(+8)
1/7
(e/+1)
80.16
(+4.76)
14.1
(+1.61)
4.29
(+.14)
19
(+14)
LGA 145
71
(+1)
1/3
(e/e)
88.04
(+7.7)
14
(even)
5.02
(+.52)
10
(-1)
ORD EMJ
49
(-17)
1/2
(e/-1)
80.25
(-.91)
14
(+.40)
4.31
(-.10)
10
(-2)
ORD CRJ
108
(+3)
1/2
(e/e)
75.21
(-1.25)
14.3
(+1.61)
4.29
(+.12)
22
(+20)
Status
# of lines
Avg. Credit
Avg. DO
DFW 145
May ‘16
169
72.53
14.63
May ‘17
103 (-66)
80.59
13.9
DFW 175
May ‘16
41
71.49
13.85
May ‘17
125 (+84)
80.16
14.1
ORD 145
May ‘16
166
72.28
14.06
May ‘17
49 (-117)
80.25
14
LGA 145
May ‘16
n/a
n/a
n/a
May ‘17
71 (+71)
88.04
14
ORD CRJ
May ‘16
120
77.90
12.97
May ‘17
108 (-18)
75.21
14.3
Net +/-
-28
>~5.50
excluding LGA
>.30
Jr Lineholder DFL
11/21/16
Jr Status holder DFL
12/5/16
Jr Lineholder DCL
3/3/08
Jr Status holder DCL
4/14/08
Jr Lineholder DFE
10/19/15
Jr Status holder DFE
10/10/16
Jr Lineholder DCE
7/9/07
Jr Status holder DCE
2/14/11
Jr Lineholder OFE
11/10/14
Jr Status holder OFE
10/24/16
Jr Lineholder OCE
1/8/07
Jr Status holder OCE
11/22/10
Jr Lineholder OFC
9/12/16
Jr Status holder OFC
12/5/16
Jr Lineholder OCC
3/3/08
Jr Status holder OCC
6/7/10
Jr Lineholder NFE
11/21/16
Jr Status holder NFE
11/21/16
Jr Lineholder NCE
10/25/10
Jr Status holder NCE
2/28/11
The 4/30/2016 MEC NewsBlast’s tabulation totaled 1840 total pilots on property. Compare that to today’s 1915. We have more pilots, doing less flying. One could argue that we are getting more inefficient in our schedules, others could point to the training bubbles we are currently experiencing. Nevertheless, Envoy desperately needs to streamline the training footprint and process for all fleets. On the 145, FOs currently completing IOE were hired in late December. This four-month average is unsustainable, and we sincerely hope the addition of the simulator in France can help the backlog.
Average line values are trending upwards as we enter the summer months, and days off are hovering (on average) around 14, which is much improved from late summer last year, but relatively flat progress overall from year to year. In October of last year, the average days off were hovering around 12 for our airline.
Sourse Union email last night
04-25-2017, 12:32 PM
#2
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2016
Posts: 122
Originally Posted by lakehouse
The below chart has both April 2017 and May 2016 to compare May 2017’s schedules to.
Block Hours
DFW 145
DFW 175
ORD 145
LGA 145
ORD CRJ
Totals
4/2017
6768
9434
4736
5449
8469
34856
5/2017
7505
9588
3561
6172
8148
34974
Change
+737
+154
-1175
-723
+1127.35
+118
5/2016
12258
2931
11998
0
9348
36535
16 v. 17
-4753
+6657
-8437
+6172
+1200
-1561
May.
2017
Lines
Hard Lines
Relief/
Comp.
Avg. Credit
Avg. Days Off
Avg. Block Per Day
Lines w/ Sat+Sun Off
DFW EMJ
103
(+8)
1/6
(e/+1)
80.59
(+2.31)
13.9
(+.2)
4.31
(-.05)
15
(-5)
DFW 175
125
(+8)
1/7
(e/+1)
80.16
(+4.76)
14.1
(+1.61)
4.29
(+.14)
19
(+14)
LGA 145
71
(+1)
1/3
(e/e)
88.04
(+7.7)
14
(even)
5.02
(+.52)
10
(-1)
ORD EMJ
49
(-17)
1/2
(e/-1)
80.25
(-.91)
14
(+.40)
4.31
(-.10)
10
(-2)
ORD CRJ
108
(+3)
1/2
(e/e)
75.21
(-1.25)
14.3
(+1.61)
4.29
(+.12)
22
(+20)
Status
# of lines
Avg. Credit
Avg. DO
DFW 145
May ‘16
169
72.53
14.63
May ‘17
103 (-66)
80.59
13.9
DFW 175
May ‘16
41
71.49
13.85
May ‘17
125 (+84)
80.16
14.1
ORD 145
May ‘16
166
72.28
14.06
May ‘17
49 (-117)
80.25
14
LGA 145
May ‘16
n/a
n/a
n/a
May ‘17
71 (+71)
88.04
14
ORD CRJ
May ‘16
120
77.90
12.97
May ‘17
108 (-18)
75.21
14.3
Net +/-
-28
>~5.50
excluding LGA
>.30
Jr Lineholder DFL
11/21/16
Jr Status holder DFL
12/5/16
Jr Lineholder DCL
3/3/08
Jr Status holder DCL
4/14/08
Jr Lineholder DFE
10/19/15
Jr Status holder DFE
10/10/16
Jr Lineholder DCE
7/9/07
Jr Status holder DCE
2/14/11
Jr Lineholder OFE
11/10/14
Jr Status holder OFE
10/24/16
Jr Lineholder OCE
1/8/07
Jr Status holder OCE
11/22/10
Jr Lineholder OFC
9/12/16
Jr Status holder OFC
12/5/16
Jr Lineholder OCC
3/3/08
Jr Status holder OCC
6/7/10
Jr Lineholder NFE
11/21/16
Jr Status holder NFE
11/21/16
Jr Lineholder NCE
10/25/10
Jr Status holder NCE
2/28/11
The 4/30/2016 MEC NewsBlast’s tabulation totaled 1840 total pilots on property. Compare that to today’s 1915. We have more pilots, doing less flying. One could argue that we are getting more inefficient in our schedules, others could point to the training bubbles we are currently experiencing. Nevertheless, Envoy desperately needs to streamline the training footprint and process for all fleets. On the 145, FOs currently completing IOE were hired in late December. This four-month average is unsustainable, and we sincerely hope the addition of the simulator in France can help the backlog.
Average line values are trending upwards as we enter the summer months, and days off are hovering (on average) around 14, which is much improved from late summer last year, but relatively flat progress overall from year to year. In October of last year, the average days off were hovering around 12 for our airline.
Sourse Union email last night
Block Hours
DFW 145
DFW 175
ORD 145
LGA 145
ORD CRJ
Totals
4/2017
6768
9434
4736
5449
8469
34856
5/2017
7505
9588
3561
6172
8148
34974
Change
+737
+154
-1175
-723
+1127.35
+118
5/2016
12258
2931
11998
0
9348
36535
16 v. 17
-4753
+6657
-8437
+6172
+1200
-1561
May.
2017
Lines
Hard Lines
Relief/
Comp.
Avg. Credit
Avg. Days Off
Avg. Block Per Day
Lines w/ Sat+Sun Off
DFW EMJ
103
(+8)
1/6
(e/+1)
80.59
(+2.31)
13.9
(+.2)
4.31
(-.05)
15
(-5)
DFW 175
125
(+8)
1/7
(e/+1)
80.16
(+4.76)
14.1
(+1.61)
4.29
(+.14)
19
(+14)
LGA 145
71
(+1)
1/3
(e/e)
88.04
(+7.7)
14
(even)
5.02
(+.52)
10
(-1)
ORD EMJ
49
(-17)
1/2
(e/-1)
80.25
(-.91)
14
(+.40)
4.31
(-.10)
10
(-2)
ORD CRJ
108
(+3)
1/2
(e/e)
75.21
(-1.25)
14.3
(+1.61)
4.29
(+.12)
22
(+20)
Status
# of lines
Avg. Credit
Avg. DO
DFW 145
May ‘16
169
72.53
14.63
May ‘17
103 (-66)
80.59
13.9
DFW 175
May ‘16
41
71.49
13.85
May ‘17
125 (+84)
80.16
14.1
ORD 145
May ‘16
166
72.28
14.06
May ‘17
49 (-117)
80.25
14
LGA 145
May ‘16
n/a
n/a
n/a
May ‘17
71 (+71)
88.04
14
ORD CRJ
May ‘16
120
77.90
12.97
May ‘17
108 (-18)
75.21
14.3
Net +/-
-28
>~5.50
excluding LGA
>.30
Jr Lineholder DFL
11/21/16
Jr Status holder DFL
12/5/16
Jr Lineholder DCL
3/3/08
Jr Status holder DCL
4/14/08
Jr Lineholder DFE
10/19/15
Jr Status holder DFE
10/10/16
Jr Lineholder DCE
7/9/07
Jr Status holder DCE
2/14/11
Jr Lineholder OFE
11/10/14
Jr Status holder OFE
10/24/16
Jr Lineholder OCE
1/8/07
Jr Status holder OCE
11/22/10
Jr Lineholder OFC
9/12/16
Jr Status holder OFC
12/5/16
Jr Lineholder OCC
3/3/08
Jr Status holder OCC
6/7/10
Jr Lineholder NFE
11/21/16
Jr Status holder NFE
11/21/16
Jr Lineholder NCE
10/25/10
Jr Status holder NCE
2/28/11
The 4/30/2016 MEC NewsBlast’s tabulation totaled 1840 total pilots on property. Compare that to today’s 1915. We have more pilots, doing less flying. One could argue that we are getting more inefficient in our schedules, others could point to the training bubbles we are currently experiencing. Nevertheless, Envoy desperately needs to streamline the training footprint and process for all fleets. On the 145, FOs currently completing IOE were hired in late December. This four-month average is unsustainable, and we sincerely hope the addition of the simulator in France can help the backlog.
Average line values are trending upwards as we enter the summer months, and days off are hovering (on average) around 14, which is much improved from late summer last year, but relatively flat progress overall from year to year. In October of last year, the average days off were hovering around 12 for our airline.
Sourse Union email last night
04-25-2017, 04:41 PM
#5
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2016
Position: E175
Posts: 686
Originally Posted by lakehouse
The below chart has both April 2017 and May 2016 to compare May 2017’s schedules to.
Block Hours
DFW 145
DFW 175
ORD 145
LGA 145
ORD CRJ
Totals
4/2017
6768
9434
4736
5449
8469
34856
5/2017
7505
9588
3561
6172
8148
34974
Change
+737
+154
-1175
-723
+1127.35
+118
5/2016
12258
2931
11998
0
9348
36535
16 v. 17
-4753
+6657
-8437
+6172
+1200
-1561
May.
2017
Lines
Hard Lines
Relief/
Comp.
Avg. Credit
Avg. Days Off
Avg. Block Per Day
Lines w/ Sat+Sun Off
DFW EMJ
103
(+8)
1/6
(e/+1)
80.59
(+2.31)
13.9
(+.2)
4.31
(-.05)
15
(-5)
DFW 175
125
(+8)
1/7
(e/+1)
80.16
(+4.76)
14.1
(+1.61)
4.29
(+.14)
19
(+14)
LGA 145
71
(+1)
1/3
(e/e)
88.04
(+7.7)
14
(even)
5.02
(+.52)
10
(-1)
ORD EMJ
49
(-17)
1/2
(e/-1)
80.25
(-.91)
14
(+.40)
4.31
(-.10)
10
(-2)
ORD CRJ
108
(+3)
1/2
(e/e)
75.21
(-1.25)
14.3
(+1.61)
4.29
(+.12)
22
(+20)
Status
# of lines
Avg. Credit
Avg. DO
DFW 145
May ‘16
169
72.53
14.63
May ‘17
103 (-66)
80.59
13.9
DFW 175
May ‘16
41
71.49
13.85
May ‘17
125 (+84)
80.16
14.1
ORD 145
May ‘16
166
72.28
14.06
May ‘17
49 (-117)
80.25
14
LGA 145
May ‘16
n/a
n/a
n/a
May ‘17
71 (+71)
88.04
14
ORD CRJ
May ‘16
120
77.90
12.97
May ‘17
108 (-18)
75.21
14.3
Net +/-
-28
>~5.50
excluding LGA
>.30
Jr Lineholder DFL
11/21/16
Jr Status holder DFL
12/5/16
Jr Lineholder DCL
3/3/08
Jr Status holder DCL
4/14/08
Jr Lineholder DFE
10/19/15
Jr Status holder DFE
10/10/16
Jr Lineholder DCE
7/9/07
Jr Status holder DCE
2/14/11
Jr Lineholder OFE
11/10/14
Jr Status holder OFE
10/24/16
Jr Lineholder OCE
1/8/07
Jr Status holder OCE
11/22/10
Jr Lineholder OFC
9/12/16
Jr Status holder OFC
12/5/16
Jr Lineholder OCC
3/3/08
Jr Status holder OCC
6/7/10
Jr Lineholder NFE
11/21/16
Jr Status holder NFE
11/21/16
Jr Lineholder NCE
10/25/10
Jr Status holder NCE
2/28/11
The 4/30/2016 MEC NewsBlast’s tabulation totaled 1840 total pilots on property. Compare that to today’s 1915. We have more pilots, doing less flying. One could argue that we are getting more inefficient in our schedules, others could point to the training bubbles we are currently experiencing. Nevertheless, Envoy desperately needs to streamline the training footprint and process for all fleets. On the 145, FOs currently completing IOE were hired in late December. This four-month average is unsustainable, and we sincerely hope the addition of the simulator in France can help the backlog.
Average line values are trending upwards as we enter the summer months, and days off are hovering (on average) around 14, which is much improved from late summer last year, but relatively flat progress overall from year to year. In October of last year, the average days off were hovering around 12 for our airline.
Sourse Union email last night
Block Hours
DFW 145
DFW 175
ORD 145
LGA 145
ORD CRJ
Totals
4/2017
6768
9434
4736
5449
8469
34856
5/2017
7505
9588
3561
6172
8148
34974
Change
+737
+154
-1175
-723
+1127.35
+118
5/2016
12258
2931
11998
0
9348
36535
16 v. 17
-4753
+6657
-8437
+6172
+1200
-1561
May.
2017
Lines
Hard Lines
Relief/
Comp.
Avg. Credit
Avg. Days Off
Avg. Block Per Day
Lines w/ Sat+Sun Off
DFW EMJ
103
(+8)
1/6
(e/+1)
80.59
(+2.31)
13.9
(+.2)
4.31
(-.05)
15
(-5)
DFW 175
125
(+8)
1/7
(e/+1)
80.16
(+4.76)
14.1
(+1.61)
4.29
(+.14)
19
(+14)
LGA 145
71
(+1)
1/3
(e/e)
88.04
(+7.7)
14
(even)
5.02
(+.52)
10
(-1)
ORD EMJ
49
(-17)
1/2
(e/-1)
80.25
(-.91)
14
(+.40)
4.31
(-.10)
10
(-2)
ORD CRJ
108
(+3)
1/2
(e/e)
75.21
(-1.25)
14.3
(+1.61)
4.29
(+.12)
22
(+20)
Status
# of lines
Avg. Credit
Avg. DO
DFW 145
May ‘16
169
72.53
14.63
May ‘17
103 (-66)
80.59
13.9
DFW 175
May ‘16
41
71.49
13.85
May ‘17
125 (+84)
80.16
14.1
ORD 145
May ‘16
166
72.28
14.06
May ‘17
49 (-117)
80.25
14
LGA 145
May ‘16
n/a
n/a
n/a
May ‘17
71 (+71)
88.04
14
ORD CRJ
May ‘16
120
77.90
12.97
May ‘17
108 (-18)
75.21
14.3
Net +/-
-28
>~5.50
excluding LGA
>.30
Jr Lineholder DFL
11/21/16
Jr Status holder DFL
12/5/16
Jr Lineholder DCL
3/3/08
Jr Status holder DCL
4/14/08
Jr Lineholder DFE
10/19/15
Jr Status holder DFE
10/10/16
Jr Lineholder DCE
7/9/07
Jr Status holder DCE
2/14/11
Jr Lineholder OFE
11/10/14
Jr Status holder OFE
10/24/16
Jr Lineholder OCE
1/8/07
Jr Status holder OCE
11/22/10
Jr Lineholder OFC
9/12/16
Jr Status holder OFC
12/5/16
Jr Lineholder OCC
3/3/08
Jr Status holder OCC
6/7/10
Jr Lineholder NFE
11/21/16
Jr Status holder NFE
11/21/16
Jr Lineholder NCE
10/25/10
Jr Status holder NCE
2/28/11
The 4/30/2016 MEC NewsBlast’s tabulation totaled 1840 total pilots on property. Compare that to today’s 1915. We have more pilots, doing less flying. One could argue that we are getting more inefficient in our schedules, others could point to the training bubbles we are currently experiencing. Nevertheless, Envoy desperately needs to streamline the training footprint and process for all fleets. On the 145, FOs currently completing IOE were hired in late December. This four-month average is unsustainable, and we sincerely hope the addition of the simulator in France can help the backlog.
Average line values are trending upwards as we enter the summer months, and days off are hovering (on average) around 14, which is much improved from late summer last year, but relatively flat progress overall from year to year. In October of last year, the average days off were hovering around 12 for our airline.
Sourse Union email last night
Good Info. Thanks.
04-26-2017, 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Bigpimppilot
Are those average days off for the whole fleet or just average days off for a lineholder? Aren't reserves 11days off and about 30% of the pilots ?
Numbers don't lie, there's been alot of extemely different claims made on here lately, those numbers are facts.
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