CRJ or ERJ
11-07-2017 | 01:23 PM
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thank you for the info.
11-07-2017 | 01:26 PM
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I'm on old guy, late 40s, but new to this industry. RTP guy. Originally thought I was most likely a shoe in for 175s because of my age. Now that it's been decided that we are third class citizens, that is no longer the case. Looking at 145s or CRJ. Looking for Pros and Cons of each.
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11-07-2017 | 01:28 PM
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11-07-2017 | 05:35 PM
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Can't Go Wrong...
Plan what you will, it will all change by the time you hit the line :-)
Some points of interest.
*Don't discount getting the 175. the extra $5k for the CRJ and 145 draw some people away. Envoy wants an all 175 fleet and continues to grow that fleet.
*Upgrade bids to the left seat with base of choice are awarded from the top of the seniority list. When that list runs dry, displacement to the left seat and assigned base starts at the bottom of seniority list. Depending on your qualifying time, you may be displaced before really enjoying any time on whatever aircraft you choose.
*CRJ training is a much small group of pilots so you get to know each other very well.
*You may not get a choice (either because CRJ is not offered on your hire date, or more senior pilots take it).
*145 training group is much larger giving you more variety of pilots to choose from to buddy up with doe studying, sim partners...
*CURRENTLY, 145 fleet is largest and at all bases. I assume that would give you much more mobility to jump to another base if it goes junior or otherwise gives you preferred seniority at that base.
*Play the numbers game during the bid. If when your bid number is up 75% of 175 are gone, 25% of CRJs are gone, and 50% of 145 are gone, biding CRJ gives you highest seniority in class. Or play it by the quantities. 2 remaining 175, 3 remaining CRJ, and 15 remaining 145, then 145 puts more pilots under you. I guess base matters too.
*From what I know, CRJ 700 has the best thrust to weight ratio of all regional jets.
*Some have told me they love only one FA b/c less drama. I love knowing there are two back there to support each other.
Hope that gives you something meaningful to think about
Some points of interest.
*Don't discount getting the 175. the extra $5k for the CRJ and 145 draw some people away. Envoy wants an all 175 fleet and continues to grow that fleet.
*Upgrade bids to the left seat with base of choice are awarded from the top of the seniority list. When that list runs dry, displacement to the left seat and assigned base starts at the bottom of seniority list. Depending on your qualifying time, you may be displaced before really enjoying any time on whatever aircraft you choose.
*CRJ training is a much small group of pilots so you get to know each other very well.
*You may not get a choice (either because CRJ is not offered on your hire date, or more senior pilots take it).
*145 training group is much larger giving you more variety of pilots to choose from to buddy up with doe studying, sim partners...
*CURRENTLY, 145 fleet is largest and at all bases. I assume that would give you much more mobility to jump to another base if it goes junior or otherwise gives you preferred seniority at that base.
*Play the numbers game during the bid. If when your bid number is up 75% of 175 are gone, 25% of CRJs are gone, and 50% of 145 are gone, biding CRJ gives you highest seniority in class. Or play it by the quantities. 2 remaining 175, 3 remaining CRJ, and 15 remaining 145, then 145 puts more pilots under you. I guess base matters too.
*From what I know, CRJ 700 has the best thrust to weight ratio of all regional jets.
*Some have told me they love only one FA b/c less drama. I love knowing there are two back there to support each other.
Hope that gives you something meaningful to think about
11-07-2017 | 06:13 PM
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Honestly, if I’m commuting no matter what, I’ll take the 145. Every domicile has the 145 and sometimes TDY is offered for one or more bases which gives you the option of using one of the TDY options which I think benefits commuters more so than those that live in a base. YMMV.
The notion that the 145 is going away is flawed. We’re bringing 40 140s out of retirement for gawds sake. We’ll all flow before Envoy gets rid of it.
The notion that the 145 is going away is flawed. We’re bringing 40 140s out of retirement for gawds sake. We’ll all flow before Envoy gets rid of it.
11-07-2017 | 06:58 PM
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Plan what you will, it will all change by the time you hit the line :-)
Some points of interest.
*Don't discount getting the 175. the extra $5k for the CRJ and 145 draw some people away. Envoy wants an all 175 fleet and continues to grow that fleet.
*Upgrade bids to the left seat with base of choice are awarded from the top of the seniority list. When that list runs dry, displacement to the left seat and assigned base starts at the bottom of seniority list. Depending on your qualifying time, you may be displaced before really enjoying any time on whatever aircraft you choose.
*CRJ training is a much small group of pilots so you get to know each other very well.
*You may not get a choice (either because CRJ is not offered on your hire date, or more senior pilots take it).
*145 training group is much larger giving you more variety of pilots to choose from to buddy up with doe studying, sim partners...
*CURRENTLY, 145 fleet is largest and at all bases. I assume that would give you much more mobility to jump to another base if it goes junior or otherwise gives you preferred seniority at that base.
*Play the numbers game during the bid. If when your bid number is up 75% of 175 are gone, 25% of CRJs are gone, and 50% of 145 are gone, biding CRJ gives you highest seniority in class. Or play it by the quantities. 2 remaining 175, 3 remaining CRJ, and 15 remaining 145, then 145 puts more pilots under you. I guess base matters too.
*From what I know, CRJ 700 has the best thrust to weight ratio of all regional jets.
*Some have told me they love only one FA b/c less drama. I love knowing there are two back there to support each other.
Hope that gives you something meaningful to think about
Some points of interest.
*Don't discount getting the 175. the extra $5k for the CRJ and 145 draw some people away. Envoy wants an all 175 fleet and continues to grow that fleet.
*Upgrade bids to the left seat with base of choice are awarded from the top of the seniority list. When that list runs dry, displacement to the left seat and assigned base starts at the bottom of seniority list. Depending on your qualifying time, you may be displaced before really enjoying any time on whatever aircraft you choose.
*CRJ training is a much small group of pilots so you get to know each other very well.
*You may not get a choice (either because CRJ is not offered on your hire date, or more senior pilots take it).
*145 training group is much larger giving you more variety of pilots to choose from to buddy up with doe studying, sim partners...
*CURRENTLY, 145 fleet is largest and at all bases. I assume that would give you much more mobility to jump to another base if it goes junior or otherwise gives you preferred seniority at that base.
*Play the numbers game during the bid. If when your bid number is up 75% of 175 are gone, 25% of CRJs are gone, and 50% of 145 are gone, biding CRJ gives you highest seniority in class. Or play it by the quantities. 2 remaining 175, 3 remaining CRJ, and 15 remaining 145, then 145 puts more pilots under you. I guess base matters too.
*From what I know, CRJ 700 has the best thrust to weight ratio of all regional jets.
*Some have told me they love only one FA b/c less drama. I love knowing there are two back there to support each other.
Hope that gives you something meaningful to think about
No doubt if a 175 is available, I'll take it. I'm just trying to make the other decision before I have to, in case I have to. I'm going to be a freakin' airline pilot so I'm going to be happy no matter what. I'm just trying to weigh the pros and cons so I can make the best decision for me and my family.
Which one only has one FA?
11-07-2017 | 06:59 PM
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Honestly, if I’m commuting no matter what, I’ll take the 145. Every domicile has the 145 and sometimes TDY is offered for one or more bases which gives you the option of using one of the TDY options which I think benefits commuters more so than those that live in a base. YMMV.
The notion that the 145 is going away is flawed. We’re bringing 40 140s out of retirement for gawds sake. We’ll all flow before Envoy gets rid of it.
The notion that the 145 is going away is flawed. We’re bringing 40 140s out of retirement for gawds sake. We’ll all flow before Envoy gets rid of it.
11-07-2017 | 08:50 PM
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$1300ish For per diem. Positive space pass back and forth from home. Hotel for the entire month -check in day one check out last day.
The only down side is you do not get to bid what you can hold. You are essentially going to be on reserve since all (voluntary) TDY pilots bids last.
The only down side is you do not get to bid what you can hold. You are essentially going to be on reserve since all (voluntary) TDY pilots bids last.
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