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highfarfast 01-03-2019 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by FlyPurdue (Post 2735763)
Thank you for the info - I have read the contract, and in particular the reserve section many times. I agree that my question made it seem as if I was planning on just walking out of the airport once confirmed via AVRS, but that was never my intent. I was more curious if CS would even award a proffer for an AM trip/S1 if one is currently sitting S2. The contract is not clear on this situation, and frankly I was asking what happens predominately in practice.

Thanks!

Sorry if sounded harsh but, yeah, it did sound like you were making plans on getting out of Standby early. Felt, I needed to drive the point home. ;-)

NoValueAviator 01-04-2019 03:47 AM

They usually skip you and award your early start to the next guy if your current RAP makes you illegal.

martyByrde 01-04-2019 09:08 AM

Are there any restrictions to appropriating open time out of base?

Pedro4President 01-04-2019 10:32 AM


Originally Posted by martyByrde (Post 2736551)
Are there any restrictions to appropriating open time out of base?

Nope. Same as in base.

arbatistoni 01-04-2019 08:33 PM


Originally Posted by martyByrde (Post 2736551)
Are there any restrictions to appropriating open time out of base?

No restrictions but you are lower priority than ppl who try to pick it up in base.

Pedro4President 01-05-2019 03:16 AM


Originally Posted by arbatistoni (Post 2737021)
No restrictions but you are lower priority than ppl who try to pick it up in base.

He is asking about reserve appropriation. It's still first come first serve so there is no seniority system involved.

KodiakRS 01-05-2019 08:47 PM

Please remember that when appropriating reserve flying proper etiquette is to contact the other pilot first. There's no contractual obligation to do so but it's generally regarded as a jerk move to not ask permission first.

Weekendwarrior2 01-05-2019 08:56 PM


Originally Posted by KodiakRS (Post 2737580)
Please remember that when appropriating reserve flying proper etiquette is to contact the other pilot first. There's no contractual obligation to do so but it's generally regarded as a jerk move to not ask permission first.



No offense but it’s hard enough to get a response to a P2P trip on QuickTrade, I’ve never bothered contacting the other pilot. Scheduling will contact them and they will come up with some sort of agreeable solution.

KodiakRS 01-05-2019 09:36 PM


Originally Posted by Weekendwarrior2 (Post 2737581)
Scheduling will contact them and they will come up with some sort of agreeable solution.

I'm guessing you haven't spent a lot of time on reserve.

Letter 13-13 doesn't offer a lot of protections for the pilot the flying has been appropriated from. There are several ways a pilot can get screwed under B.2.b with nothing they can do about it. And let's not pretend like preventing appropriation by signing yourself up for more abuse on the turnback list is a viable option for a lot of guys.

Reserve is bad enough here already. There's no need for us to make it harder on our fellow pilots just because you're looking for a few extra hours of pay or flight time.

AeroEnvoy 01-05-2019 10:10 PM

I don't see how appropriating screws the other pilot. I'm on reserve and a commuter and I wouldnt mind if someone appropriated some flying from me while on reserve. If someone did I still get the hotels in base without it effecting my commuter hotels and my sign in time will still have to be the same if CS decided to give me RAP for that day instead. I think a call is a little over the top. I probably wouldn't even answer my phone.


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