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Your numbered comments yesterday caused me to ask my friends at Southwest and Delta if their company’s did anything of the sort. I though maybe having spent my career at Eagle and now AA, that I was somehow missing something more common in the industry outside this corporation. Well, their answers were no. Nothing even remotely close to that at either airline. AAL is the same. No email, no congrats, no nothing from anyone in any sort of management position. The Checkairman, of course, give you a big smile and a handshake, and all that, but that’s it.
Honestly, what would amount to a form letter, which is all they could really do if they were to even consider this, would be something I’d roll my eyes at anyway.
Honestly, what would amount to a form letter, which is all they could really do if they were to even consider this, would be something I’d roll my eyes at anyway.
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“No email that I remember. Personally, I think the idea of a congratulatory email for passing a checkride is not necessary. After all, you’re hired because they think it’s a given you’ll pass.”
Plus, he just finished his upgrade training, having previously flown the 767-400 prior to his upgrade into the Airbus. He mentioned no congratulatory email for that milestone either.
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From my buddy who’s now a captain on the 320 out of ATL:
“No email that I remember. Personally, I think the idea of a congratulatory email for passing a checkride is not necessary. After all, you’re hired because they think it’s a given you’ll pass.”
Plus, he just finished his upgrade training, having previously flown the 767-400 prior to his upgrade into the Airbus. He mentioned no congratulatory email for that milestone either.
“No email that I remember. Personally, I think the idea of a congratulatory email for passing a checkride is not necessary. After all, you’re hired because they think it’s a given you’ll pass.”
Plus, he just finished his upgrade training, having previously flown the 767-400 prior to his upgrade into the Airbus. He mentioned no congratulatory email for that milestone either.
Congratulation e-mail wasn't for the check-ride, but there were personal congratulations at the check-ride. I got 3 different congratulation e-mails from 3 different sources when I got off IOE, as well as a couple e-mails after INDOC. I consider that to be close enough. I can't speak for the upgrades, but my sim partner was an upgrade and the APD and FAA observer we had made a bit of a thing about a congratulation to him and the APD had a set of CA wings to present to him.
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I'm at Delta. You can't walk through the training center without people stopping to welcome you if you remotely look like a new hire. Between line pilots and management types, it really is pretty well anyone you bump into or sees you in a hallway congratulates you personally.
Congratulation e-mail wasn't for the check-ride, but there were personal congratulations at the check-ride. I got 3 different congratulation e-mails from 3 different sources when I got off IOE, as well as a couple e-mails after INDOC. I consider that to be close enough. I can't speak for the upgrades, but my sim partner was an upgrade and the APD and FAA observer we had made a bit of a thing about a congratulation to him and the APD had a set of CA wings to present to him.
Congratulation e-mail wasn't for the check-ride, but there were personal congratulations at the check-ride. I got 3 different congratulation e-mails from 3 different sources when I got off IOE, as well as a couple e-mails after INDOC. I consider that to be close enough. I can't speak for the upgrades, but my sim partner was an upgrade and the APD and FAA observer we had made a bit of a thing about a congratulation to him and the APD had a set of CA wings to present to him.
Well, yea, we got the “we’re glad you’re here. We REALLY are (and I believed that)” comments from dozens of instructors and managers while in training, which was nice. Same from the Base CP’s when I met them.
Email congratulation for a Checkride passed? No.
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The military does make a much bigger deal when folks receive their initial rating.
And Envoy does do the Captain’s dinner thing.
While I didn’t expect a personal congratulations from The chief pilot, there were a number of things, including my wings, I had to chase down. An email from the base CPO with some information would be a great benefit. I’m sure different IOE guys cover things differently, but even getting to the first day of IOE could use some info. The IN day is a complete joke/waste of a commute and that isn’t until after IOE. Even guys that live in base probably spent more time on the employee shuttle just getting to the CPO.
And as I understand the guys at AA do a meet and greet with their new base CP after they are awarded assignments before they start training. Southwest pays to have spouses brought in the first few days when you start.
So I think there can be a lot more done to welcome and inform. And believe me, I am far from a glory monger want to be nothing more than a name on a paycheck.
And Envoy does do the Captain’s dinner thing.
While I didn’t expect a personal congratulations from The chief pilot, there were a number of things, including my wings, I had to chase down. An email from the base CPO with some information would be a great benefit. I’m sure different IOE guys cover things differently, but even getting to the first day of IOE could use some info. The IN day is a complete joke/waste of a commute and that isn’t until after IOE. Even guys that live in base probably spent more time on the employee shuttle just getting to the CPO.
And as I understand the guys at AA do a meet and greet with their new base CP after they are awarded assignments before they start training. Southwest pays to have spouses brought in the first few days when you start.
So I think there can be a lot more done to welcome and inform. And believe me, I am far from a glory monger want to be nothing more than a name on a paycheck.
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This....^^^^^^^
Some of you are taking what the other guy with a list said out of wack and detailing his comment, I went back and read it in context. He was trying to just make the same point above.
I like how the Delta guy articulated his experience also.
I do believe a lot of you from the Eagle era are a bit jaded with PTSD and expectations. None of your faults.
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I don’t think any M51 messages go out if someone in management is a minute late with something.
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😮... oooopppppsss....boxes of chocolates, huge bouquets of flowers and a big ole huge arm swinging pat on the back from the leader in the industry! Lol
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