When does Envoy's current contract expire?
01-25-2018 | 09:53 AM
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There is a limited re-opener for the contract before then. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe in 2020 both parties go to the table with 2 items they want to negotiate? As far as how long the current contract will keep brining guys in? Well, only time will tell. But I think anyone who thinks the new hire classes are going to take a substantial hit anytime soon are setting themselves up for disappointment. The cadet and RTP pipeline alone will keep a solid stream coming in.
01-25-2018 | 11:41 AM
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There is a limited re-opener for the contract before then. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe in 2020 both parties go to the table with 2 items they want to negotiate? As far as how long the current contract will keep brining guys in? Well, only time will tell. But I think anyone who thinks the new hire classes are going to take a substantial hit anytime soon are setting themselves up for disappointment. The cadet and RTP pipeline alone will keep a solid stream coming in.
01-25-2018 | 11:46 AM
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That's really interesting to me - and I don't mean that in a negative way because the contract was negotiated in a different era where there were some massive forces at work (i.e., Envoy's existence & carving a niche in post-bankruptcy/post-merger world). What factors have lead to both sides being agreeable to the longer term contracts the last couple times through negotiations? (I don't have any Part 121 experience yet so line me out if I need it here, but aren't most regional contracts typically much shorter than 10-16 year contracts?)
01-25-2018 | 12:08 PM
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That's really interesting to me - and I don't mean that in a negative way because the contract was negotiated in a different era where there were some massive forces at work (i.e., Envoy's existence & carving a niche in post-bankruptcy/post-merger world). What factors have lead to both sides being agreeable to the longer term contracts the last couple times through negotiations? (I don't have any Part 121 experience yet so line me out if I need it here, but aren't most regional contracts typically much shorter than 10-16 year contracts?)
01-25-2018 | 01:40 PM
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To answer your question: 60% of a pilot group who had just faced a year of liquidation threats, outright lies, planes being given away to other regionals in retaliation for a handful of no votes, other employee groups being turned against us, the firing of some union reps, and us shrinking from 3200+ pilots to just over half of that. In exchange for some 175s.
01-25-2018 | 01:59 PM
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There was no agreeing on our 2014 contract. It was rammed down our throats. We voted it down a couple of times and then it finally got voted in begrudgingly in response to losing a good chunk of our fleet, new aircraft orders that were meant to come to us being sent to other carriers, and the threat of the airline being shutdown after a slow and painful death.
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