Don’t we have the 41st on property already?

 

Take it out of first year pay!!

 

Good luck getting people to come here when the current pilots have too start paying for not wanting PBS. Never going to happen

 

No s#it. That’s why pbs isn’t going to happen until another 9/11. The company realizes the limitation of their position and is playing their hand well.

 

Yes, moving forward on PBS has been suspended by the company even though the 41st 175 was delieverd. The company didn't think PBS was in their best interest at the moment so therefore the suspension.

If/when they decide to proceed, the union and company still have to negotiate a few things and then the pilots still get to vote on PBS. If wr vote it down, the pilot group is on the hook for the already negotiated price that the company valued PBS to be.

If we vote no, then the union and company will have to go back and negotiate how they take that money from us.

 

Just like flow was suspended and, or metered.

Seems they can do anything they want. I agree with you, the company does not want PBS yet. When they do and are ready they will come to the bargaining table, most likely after PSA has agreed and approved, then pressure is on our MEC to agree and “me too” us into a PSA agreement. Even if our MEC and the company both would like to kick-the-can-down-the-road on PBS, SHOULD the letter not be enforced? Shouldn’t discussions be happening?

41st has been delivered. Discussion is suspended, Company has a freeze on Rsv, and other improvement talks. Discussing PBS per the letter is a hand to be played and can bring them back to the table. File another grievance.

Announcements this year will be interesting. UA increasing regional flying, UA openly discussing and opening Scope discussions in order to compete against LLC/ULLCs, and survive pressure from shareholder to increase profits and margins. Boeing lost the legal fight 4-0 vote in favor of Bombardier/Delta/Airbus- CS100/300

Really hard to predict what the Regional industry will look like by December 2018, yet alone ENY by Summer/Fall 2018.

Just a thought.

 

Oh like if they approve 1 more guy a month to flow then the whole pilot group takes pbs in the shorts?

 

So what is the big deal with PBS?

I know it is/was a negotiating point and lots of other pilot and FA groups use it.

Why is it a good thing or a bad thing for for the company and or the pilots?

 

PBS increases pilot efficiency. No vacation conflicts, no training conflicts, no transition conflicts. More pilots get a line but there are less trips to trade with in open time less open time to pick up for extra pay. Airlines with pbs get the pilots to fly More for the same pay.

 

PBS is only as good as the parings. The group that controls the pairings controls the quality of the lines generated by PBS. One guess as to who holds unilateral control of the pairings under our proposed agreement.