CA Shortage Critical
04-25-2018, 01:40 PM
#63
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Joined APC: Dec 2015
Posts: 540
Originally Posted by TransWorld
I understand you are very bitter with Envoy (as you have stated here) and went to work for Alligent a couple of years ago. I trust you are happier there.
I have tried to share factual information and reasonable rationale. You repeatedly disagree with me and say I have rose colored glasses. That’s okay, we likely will never agree. I have no need to continue to debate you.
Incidentally, I am not new to Envoy.
I have tried to share factual information and reasonable rationale. You repeatedly disagree with me and say I have rose colored glasses. That’s okay, we likely will never agree. I have no need to continue to debate you.
Incidentally, I am not new to Envoy.
04-25-2018, 03:19 PM
#64
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Posts: 643
Originally Posted by TransWorld
I understand you are very bitter with Envoy (as you have stated here) and went to work for Alligent a couple of years ago. I trust you are happier there.
I have tried to share factual information and reasonable rationale. You repeatedly disagree with me and say I have rose colored glasses. That’s okay, we likely will never agree. I have no need to continue to debate you.
Incidentally, I am not new to Envoy.
I have tried to share factual information and reasonable rationale. You repeatedly disagree with me and say I have rose colored glasses. That’s okay, we likely will never agree. I have no need to continue to debate you.
Incidentally, I am not new to Envoy.
04-25-2018, 06:44 PM
#65
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Posts: 140
The reason why they can't attract enough "High Value Aviators" is because they think a 45K bonus is enough to get people to come over from a place like EDV, eventhough your actual CA pay is well less than EDV's. If they matched or exceeded EDV's pay (which AA certainly has the money for) as well as offering the bonus, you'd get your captains as well as force Delta to sh1t a brick when they started losing their soon to be captains that have 1000 hours and are just waiting for a vacancy/class date.
04-26-2018, 04:09 AM
#66
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Joined APC: Aug 2016
Posts: 91
Originally Posted by TransWorld
I understand you are very bitter with Envoy (as you have stated here) and went to work for Alligent a couple of years ago. I trust you are happier there.
I have tried to share factual information and reasonable rationale. You repeatedly disagree with me and say I have rose colored glasses. That’s okay, we likely will never agree. I have no need to continue to debate you.
Incidentally, I am not new to Envoy.
I have tried to share factual information and reasonable rationale. You repeatedly disagree with me and say I have rose colored glasses. That’s okay, we likely will never agree. I have no need to continue to debate you.
Incidentally, I am not new to Envoy.
04-26-2018, 04:42 AM
#67
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Joined APC: Aug 2016
Position: Relaxed
Posts: 6,988
I appreciate all the feedback on my naïveté and inexperience. I have neither. My statement of the lesser of half or 25 is still correct. The greater of half or 25, as I have shown here, makes no sense in reality, as much as some people believe. At both very few hires and at peak hiring it results in unacceptable consequences. In mathematical terms it would be said, “it blows up”.
The summary of the contract is confusing. It appears to say greater not lesser of the two. That is not how it has been implemented. From a logical thought process, completely devoid of Envoy salesmanship, lesser makes sense as something realistic to be implemented.
Some people are letting their emotions or desires get the best of them, without thinking this through.
The summary of the contract is confusing. It appears to say greater not lesser of the two. That is not how it has been implemented. From a logical thought process, completely devoid of Envoy salesmanship, lesser makes sense as something realistic to be implemented.
Some people are letting their emotions or desires get the best of them, without thinking this through.
04-26-2018, 06:19 AM
#68
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Joined APC: Jan 2013
Posts: 49
Originally Posted by TransWorld
I appreciate all the feedback on my naïveté and inexperience. I have neither. My statement of the lesser of half or 25 is still correct. The greater of half or 25, as I have shown here, makes no sense in reality, as much as some people believe. At both very few hires and at peak hiring it results in unacceptable consequences. In mathematical terms it would be said, “it blows up”.
The summary of the contract is confusing. It appears to say greater not lesser of the two. That is not how it has been implemented. From a logical thought process, completely devoid of Envoy salesmanship, lesser makes sense as something realistic to be implemented.
Some people are letting their emotions or desires get the best of them, without thinking this through.
The summary of the contract is confusing. It appears to say greater not lesser of the two. That is not how it has been implemented. From a logical thought process, completely devoid of Envoy salesmanship, lesser makes sense as something realistic to be implemented.
Some people are letting their emotions or desires get the best of them, without thinking this through.
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