Why not pick a 145 and drive to work?

 

Because the 175 has auto throttle. Set it and forget it.

 

If you don’t want the 175 don’t bid it. The 175 goes far more senior. Getting the 145 is easy in whichever base then eventually transfer. If you live in Miami you’d be insane to bid the 175 and commute to DFW or ORD. I’ve done both (not by choice) and it can be very hard, not to mention the time wasted.

 

If i was him/her, single, no kids, flexible, I would take E145. But I would want a E175/190/195 type “only” to be more marketable to Jetblue thanks to the new AIP they just signed. Any little advantage helps. Commute on most AA metal sucks! Especially if he has to get LGA anyways.

A lot of mainline pilots /flow through commute to NYC/LGA since it’s the most junior base. So he/she would need to commute anyways on full flights. A move in base at ENY, or at mainline is nice. Many refuse to, and elect to commute.

I’d go bat**** crazy to get with Jetblue or a LLC (Spirit, SW) and say bye to flow if they have a base in my home town & call. Wide-body career is nice (for a few, but it’s not for everyone).

P.s...... Pay comparison, take a look at AA Group 2 rates, it will be lower than JetBlue’s new AIP rates (A320/A321). Something to think about.

 

Yes. Don’t pick the 175.

 

Completely false. AA Group 2 is still higher than the AIP for 2018 and 2019, with 2019 being the end of the current AA contract.

2018 Year 1, 2 and 12 FO Bus pay respectively: $86, $117, $173. AA Group 2 FO: $88, $133, $184.

2019 Year 1, 2 and 12 FO Bus pay respectively: $88, $119, $177. AA Group 2 FO: $90, $137, $190.

2018 Year 1, 2 and 12 CA Bus pay respectively: $225, $228, $259. AA Group 2 CA: $248, $250, $270.

2019 Year 1, 2 and 12 CA Bus pay respectively: $230, $232, $264. AA Group 2 CA: $255, $257, $278.

Now, I’m not saying that JB isn’t paying excellent money and that they wouldn’t be a great place to work for. It’s big money and my friends that work there enjoy it. But I don’t know where guys get this completely false information that not only JB is now gonna pay their Bus drivers more than AA. Just like the nonsense some guys were claiming that Spirit’s new TA pays their Bus drivers more than AA. Simply not true.

 

Daaayuumm! Why you gotta go bring facts to the facts thread?!

 

This, and to add to it, once the contract is up for renegotiation at the end of 2019 you can bet your life that the AA pilot union will be brining the recent contracts that Spirit/JB and the others have passed to the table. With them in hand, they certainly won't accept anything lower and will be pushing for industry leading pay.

 

APA will just pattern bargain to get back above the LCCs...unless the bottom falls out.

 

401k 50% up to 7%, not 6.