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pitchattitude 03-03-2021 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by AV8R72 (Post 3201887)
I guess i see things differently. Ya, he’s made some missteps, but the dude is like 24... who didn’t have some F ups in their ear,y 20s.

All the more that shows he is too immature to be a captain.

rickair7777 03-03-2021 08:06 AM


Originally Posted by sanicom3205 (Post 3201984)
Very often? More like 95% of the time lol. I can only speak for one company but I can tell you that going to a certain flight school changes absolutely nothing in the selection process. The vast majority of people conducting the hiring process are military/the vast majority of people hired ots are mil. Maybe you guys know about hiring at a company that's not AA?

Most companies, pre-covid, were deliberately try to strike a balance between mil and civ. Mil guys were getting harder to find, and I guess they didn't want a rep for "hires only fighter pilots" which would discourage qualified civilians from applying. I certainly prioritized my app updating based on know hiring practices.

AA knows they're getting a lot of civ via flow, so they're apparently trying to maintain a cultural balance by hiring mostly mil OTS.

sanicom3205 03-03-2021 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3202090)
Most companies, pre-covid, were deliberately try to strike a balance between mil and civ. Mil guys were getting harder to find, and I guess they didn't want a rep for "hires only fighter pilots" which would discourage qualified civilians from applying. I certainly prioritized my app updating based on know hiring practices.

AA knows they're getting a lot of civ via flow, so they're apparently trying to maintain a cultural balance by hiring mostly mil OTS.

Thats fair, but I still don’t think going to embryo riddle is gonna get you a class date anywhere...

rickair7777 03-03-2021 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by sanicom3205 (Post 3202120)
Thats fair, but I still don’t think going to embryo riddle is gonna get you a class date anywhere...

Historically, and generally I would agree but DL at least was starting to show a slight preference for aviation university grads, or at least giving them bonus points in app scoring.

No indication that applies anywhere else, and I would not attend a brand-name aviation university just to get possible preference, or the R-ATP... there are much cheaper ways to do that. If money is no option, sure why, not do a package deal. Although if it were me I'd look somewhere other than Prescott... I drove through on a camping trip and it didn't like there were any coeds in sight.

sanicom3205 03-03-2021 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3202138)
Historically, and generally I would agree but DL at least was starting to show a slight preference for aviation university grads, or at least giving them bonus points in app scoring.

No indication that applies anywhere else, and I would not attend a brand-name aviation university just to get possible preference, or the R-ATP... there are much cheaper ways to do that. If money is no option, sure why, not do a package deal. Although if it were me I'd look somewhere other than Prescott... I drove through on a camping trip and it didn't like there were any coeds in sight.

I think we’re going to see a big change in the flight training landscape. Far fewer mom and pop shops and more part 141 schools. That said, still could be a part 141 school at a small local airport. If I were to do it again, and with the 1500 hour rule, I’d look in that direction.


Just saw “embryo riddle”, thanks iPhone. I kinda like it

But seriously 03-03-2021 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3202138)
Historically, and generally I would agree but DL at least was starting to show a slight preference for aviation university grads, or at least giving them bonus points in app scoring.

No indication that applies anywhere else, and I would not attend a brand-name aviation university just to get possible preference, or the R-ATP... there are much cheaper ways to do that. If money is no option, sure why, not do a package deal. Although if it were me I'd look somewhere other than Prescott... I drove through on a camping trip and it didn't like there were any coeds in sight.

Did it occur to you that they were all hiding from the creepy old guy cruising through looking for co-eds?

Kidding, of course.

ERAUAV8TR 03-03-2021 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by sanicom3205 (Post 3201977)
You think kids who went to ERAU or UND have a better shot at a major interview than anyone else?

Yes all day long

sanicom3205 03-03-2021 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by ERAUAV8TR (Post 3202160)
Yes all day long


But you waited for the flow ? Just wanted to work for AA I take it?

THKooj 03-03-2021 11:09 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by sanicom3205 View Post
You think kids who went to ERAU or UND have a better shot at a major interview than anyone else?

Originally Posted by ERAUAV8TR (Post 3202160)
Yes all day long

The facts are that the pipeline university cadets at Envoy have far and away exceeded their initial expectations. In fact, it went so well that the bar had to be raised. Significantly. These cadets were flying circles around military aviators and Part 91 Joe's. I know, I've seen the stats. Essentially, the university trains them for a 121 flying career and they literally show up on day one and hit the ground running. The other motivator here is a career at American Airlines right out of the gate. So you can say that AA has actually done far better at hiring the university aviators than Delta as was mentioned in an earlier post. AA figured out this little secret when they saw how well the pipeline cadets were performing. After finally flushing all the lifers out in the future, I can see Envoy being 100% pipeline cadets.

Bahamasflyer 03-03-2021 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3202138)
Historically, and generally I would agree but DL at least was starting to show a slight preference for aviation university grads, or at least giving them bonus points in app scoring.

No indication that applies anywhere else, and I would not attend a brand-name aviation university just to get possible preference, or the R-ATP... there are much cheaper ways to do that. If money is no option, sure why, not do a package deal. Although if it were me I'd look somewhere other than Prescott... I drove through on a camping trip and it didn't like there were any coeds in sight.

What you say makes perfect sense.

What doesn't make ANY sense is how ERAU and a few others can justify charging an arm, leg and a first born when its so apparent that going there vs a mom and pop school with college on the side will suffice just fine (heck, you could get a seniority number, (pre COVID at least) a lot faster by waiting till the regionals to do college online) while spending probably just 25 cents on the dollar, if that!

I mean has ERAU brainwashed young aviations and parents THAT much? I'd love to hear any explanation from anyone, because I sure as heck can't figure out why.


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