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08-03-2018 | 02:53 AM

#31

Pedro4President

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I'm going to take a wild guess and say you were hired at Envoy within the past year and on the 145. I'm hearing a lot of moaning and complaining from you guys in the crew room who got caught up in the over hiring from fall of 2017 on. My suggestion is that it will get better with time. Within a year the upgrades are going to skyrocket (meaning 15/16 FOs will be upgraded at a high rate) and a new norm will set in of hiring and upgrading and flowing.

08-03-2018 | 07:15 AM

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Houpilot2001

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Just talked to a pilot who was let go out of training. Said there were a few phone calls and letters sent but that was over a year ago and nothing since.

08-03-2018 | 09:36 AM

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Cyio

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There were a couple people in our new hire class that couldn’t get through Sims last year and they both quit. Neither has had to pay anything back and only received a couple notices.

08-03-2018 | 11:31 AM

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Bigpimppilot

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Does their credit report show anything?

08-03-2018 | 12:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyio

There were a couple people in our new hire class that couldn’t get through Sims last year and they both quit. Neither has had to pay anything back and only received a couple notices.

My understanding of the contract was you did not owe anything back if you didn’t make it through training. Didn’t go back and look at after I finished training, though.

08-03-2018 | 04:42 PM

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BarrySeal

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From: Captain

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Originally Posted by Bigpimppilot

Does their credit report show anything?

not sure if credit can be impacted if it is not considered a "loan" scenario or if Envoy does not put a lien or some action against you

08-03-2018 | 09:53 PM

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lookmom

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Originally Posted by Whiskey4

Clock starts Day 1 of Indoc.

You can throw the money in savings and just hand it back, but you will still owe the company the taxes they withheld (which you never received).

So lets say that 40% taxes were withheld out of a bonus of $20,000; so that leaves you $12k after tax in your bank. So you’re saying if one leaves within a year, you owe back $20k? So that means you now have to scrap up another $8k that you never really received that Uncle Sam took and give that back to the company? Is there a way to recoup that tax money you had to payback out of your own pocket when you file taxes at the end of the year? Or are you purely screwed?

08-03-2018 | 10:52 PM

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DanRoman

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Originally Posted by lookmom

Yes you would owe the full amount back despite not receiving the full amount due to taxes. You can recoup the loss during tax time but you have to be sure and get documentation of the repayment from the company.

08-04-2018 | 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DanRoman

This ^^^^^.

Uncle Sam returns to you the money that the company paid in taxes. You reimburse Envoy, and get the tax portion back as part of a tax refund.