Standing Vacancy
#11
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Rf 100 pdis
What is the purpose of having to enter the RF 100 PDIS?
If you have a displacement preference and the company WILL displace you anyway, what is the point? Will they NOT look at it the displacement preference if you don’t and just get stuck somewhere with a NEB?
Alll of the correspondence from the union on this still sounds as if a qualified FO still has a choice NOT to upgrade. That hasn’t been the case since last October when a few VERY senior FOs slipped by, but they were all tagged in January. If there were not more slots than pilots, there wouldn’t be anything left for a standing vacancy.
Just sounds like double talk and the Union isn’t fully up on what is actually happening.
If you have a displacement preference and the company WILL displace you anyway, what is the point? Will they NOT look at it the displacement preference if you don’t and just get stuck somewhere with a NEB?
Alll of the correspondence from the union on this still sounds as if a qualified FO still has a choice NOT to upgrade. That hasn’t been the case since last October when a few VERY senior FOs slipped by, but they were all tagged in January. If there were not more slots than pilots, there wouldn’t be anything left for a standing vacancy.
Just sounds like double talk and the Union isn’t fully up on what is actually happening.
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What is the purpose of having to enter the RF 100 PDIS?
If you have a displacement preference and the company WILL displace you anyway, what is the point? Will they NOT look at it the displacement preference if you don’t and just get stuck somewhere with a NEB?
Alll of the correspondence from the union on this still sounds as if a qualified FO still has a choice NOT to upgrade. That hasn’t been the case since last October when a few VERY senior FOs slipped by, but they were all tagged in April. If there were not more slots than pilots, there would be anything left for a standing vacancy.
Just sounds like double talk and the Union isn’t fully up on what is actually happening.
If you have a displacement preference and the company WILL displace you anyway, what is the point? Will they NOT look at it the displacement preference if you don’t and just get stuck somewhere with a NEB?
Alll of the correspondence from the union on this still sounds as if a qualified FO still has a choice NOT to upgrade. That hasn’t been the case since last October when a few VERY senior FOs slipped by, but they were all tagged in April. If there were not more slots than pilots, there would be anything left for a standing vacancy.
Just sounds like double talk and the Union isn’t fully up on what is actually happening.
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What is the purpose of having to enter the RF 100 PDIS?
If you have a displacement preference and the company WILL displace you anyway, what is the point? Will they NOT look at it the displacement preference if you don’t and just get stuck somewhere with a NEB?
Alll of the correspondence from the union on this still sounds as if a qualified FO still has a choice NOT to upgrade. That hasn’t been the case since last October when a few VERY senior FOs slipped by, but they were all tagged in April. If there were not more slots than pilots, there would be anything left for a standing vacancy.
Just sounds like double talk and the Union isn’t fully up on what is actually happening.
If you have a displacement preference and the company WILL displace you anyway, what is the point? Will they NOT look at it the displacement preference if you don’t and just get stuck somewhere with a NEB?
Alll of the correspondence from the union on this still sounds as if a qualified FO still has a choice NOT to upgrade. That hasn’t been the case since last October when a few VERY senior FOs slipped by, but they were all tagged in April. If there were not more slots than pilots, there would be anything left for a standing vacancy.
Just sounds like double talk and the Union isn’t fully up on what is actually happening.
I'm not really into bashing the union on this but the last time we had a vacancy and displacement they sent their information email out extremely late. I think it was sent a day or two before then I'd closed. They need to be a little more detailed on their explanation of bidding. Their whole packet is confusing.
It's really simple to explain.
1. Always have every displacement position filled out in order from best to worst. ALL THE TIME.
2. Only put a preference if you absolutely want a position and you know you aren't going to get displaced to it.
3. Proffer to displace when you want to displace but don't know for sure you will be displaced.
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You want to stay on the 175. Have ZERO preference or proffers!!! It's that simple. Only have all displacements filled in. There is NO reason to have a preference for a CA position. NONE!! End of story. Having a preference does not make it more likely you will get the 175.
Ultimately, I would prefer to stay 175 and am looking at the best way to make that a real possibility.
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So you are suggesting to empty my 3p and then build my pdis the way I want it? I missed the last vacancy by about 20 hours so i assume that puts me at the top of the next round. I would prefer to stay 175 for the base and less stressful upgrade but am not opposed to going 145. What I do want to happen is by trying to play the game getting stuck on the crj. I understand about the training freeze and have considered the money that comes with it. But I have also considered taking the SV for the money, going to lga for 3 months and transferring out before the perks end.
Ultimately, I would prefer to stay 175 and am looking at the best way to make that a real possibility.
Ultimately, I would prefer to stay 175 and am looking at the best way to make that a real possibility.
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So you are suggesting to empty my 3p and then build my pdis the way I want it? I missed the last vacancy by about 20 hours so i assume that puts me at the top of the next round. I would prefer to stay 175 for the base and less stressful upgrade but am not opposed to going 145. What I do want to happen is by trying to play the game getting stuck on the crj. I understand about the training freeze and have considered the money that comes with it. But I have also considered taking the SV for the money, going to lga for 3 months and transferring out before the perks end.
Ultimately, I would prefer to stay 175 and am looking at the best way to make that a real possibility.
Ultimately, I would prefer to stay 175 and am looking at the best way to make that a real possibility.
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I'd argue that this is poor guidance. Certainly one shouldn't pref bid in this environment of forced upgrades. However, contractually, profer to displace is run right after pref bids and before straight displacements. Then, when training is assigned, profers get first crack at slots (in seniority order) before pure displacements (reverse seniority order). In my mind, if one truly wants a certain airframe or base, but doesn't want to chance a seat lock, it behooves one to use the profer to displace tool. Then, if you're happy with what you got, volunteer for the seat lock and profit.
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