Houpilot2001

Should be unlocked now.
Fos 3*
3P/CANCEL 1 enter, . . .

uavking

You guys realize you just shot yourselves in the foot, right, with this performative statement? Profer to displace is still a displacement; it simply gets first crack at bases and airframes still remaining after pref bids are run. So when y'all get LGA 145 because that's all that's left, when your seniority would've held something better had you profer to displace, have fun. (That's essentially what happened to a guy last vacancy)

Also, unity? Really? Then why is no one running for ORD FO rep besides one dude?

moon

That's not how it works. You displace not into what's left you displace into what you can hold. The only way it bites someone is if the company decides not to displace FOs to CA

havick206

Be careful listening to any bidding advice on here.

If I had listened to pedro4president’s advice when I bid for CA upgrade a couple of bids ago, I would’ve missed out on roughly 10k ish of withholding pay.

That was pre standing vacancy bid LOA so the playing field has changed since then.

But everyone’s individual circumstances are different and you should bid whatever best suits your own situation.

The only solid advice that rings true for daily, monthly and vacancy bidding is never bid for anything you don’t want.

Read the LOA and the contract ten times over then bid/proffer accordingly.

The million dollar question I would be asking if I were an FO that hit CA mins for the next bid would be, how many CA slots are there vs amount of eligible FO’s that can upgrade.

I can see valid reasons to not preference bid given the new LOA, but I can’t see any reason to not proffer to displace.

Pedro4President

How did I tell you to bid? Also MANY people in our company don't know how it works. Just look two post up from you and you still have a guy thinking you have a better chance to hold something if you proffer to displace vs displace because "it's ran first".

The only difference in proffer to displace vs displace is the order in how you are sent for upgrade training.

havick206

Pre LOA when forced upgrades were in full swing you surmised that no one should preference bid at all at the time.

moon

The other difference in proffer to displace vs displace is who gets displaced. If envoy displaces 1 FO from say the ORD 145 and the senior pilot in that equipment proffers to displace. That senior pilot is displaced and not the junior ORD 145 pilot.

So if someone is wanting the upgrade they should put in a proffer to displace. If someone is hoping to hold off on the upgrade and hoping there's enough qualified pilots junior to them they should put in just a displacement preference.

havick206

This is the most correct advice on this thread thus far.

Pedro4President

Yep. Preference bidding is crazy even pre LOA. 8k plus guaranteed if you don't preference bid vs a 2% chance of getting withheld and making CA pay if you do preference bid. You just got lucky.

Cyio

Just to clarify, I am not putting in an empty 3p, just the proffer will be empty. I will still have my displacements set.

Also, I am currently in the process of joining several union slots so please keep your assumptions to yourself. Just because I didn’t feel capable of performing the FO rep spot doesn’t mean I can’t be active in other ways.