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Old 09-08-2018 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Pedro4President
Yep. Preference bidding is crazy even pre LOA. 8k plus guaranteed if you don't preference bid vs a 2% chance of getting withheld and making CA pay if you do preference bid. You just got lucky.
I didn’t get lucky, I can add.
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Old 09-08-2018 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by moon
The other difference in proffer to displace vs displace is who gets displaced. If envoy displaces 1 FO from say the ORD 145 and the senior pilot in that equipment proffers to displace. That senior pilot is displaced and not the junior ORD 145 pilot.

So if someone is wanting the upgrade they should put in a proffer to displace. If someone is hoping to hold off on the upgrade and hoping there's enough qualified pilots junior to them they should put in just a displacement preference.
Obviously no one outside “the circle” in management knows, but the last several bids there has been ZERO chance of not getting displaced to CA. The company is paying a $45K bonus to get DECs. They are not going to let a qualified FO bypass. The last several bids had more openings than qualified FOs. This is on purpose. They have to have openings to create a standing vacancy.

Hoping to hold off your upgrade is like spitting into a F5 tornado and hoping not to get anything all over yourself.
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Old 09-08-2018 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by pitchattitude
Obviously no one outside “the circle” in management knows, but the last several bids there has been ZERO chance of not getting displaced to CA. The company is paying a $45K bonus to get DECs. They are not going to let a qualified FO bypass. The last several bids had more openings than qualified FOs. This is on purpose. They have to have openings to create a standing vacancy.

Hoping to hold off your upgrade is like spitting into a F5 tornado and hoping not to get anything all over yourself.
Oh I completely agree. At some point they will stop displacing all the FOs maybe.
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Old 09-09-2018 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by DilsonWic
No FO should have a preference bid. They should all be displacement bids.



You’re gonna upgrade whether you want to or not, why not get the advantages of a displacement? If your preference can hold it, your displacement can too.


Give this guy/gal a . This person gets it, unfortunately, the pilot group at large doesn’t quite understand the workings of 3D here.

Again, if your 3P can hold it, your 3D in the same order can hold it.

Do not have anything filled in for your 3P options. Enjoy all the benefits that come with a displacement (3D).


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Old 09-09-2018 | 05:04 PM
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So, if one is eligible to upgrade at 1000 hrs 121 (ignoring 135 and 91k folks), how many hours do I have if I don’t know how many hours to subtract for all those ferry/maintenance flight I got volunteered for?
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Old 09-09-2018 | 05:42 PM
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So, if one is eligible to upgrade at 1000 hrs 121 (ignoring 135 and 91k folks), how many hours do I have if I don’t know how many hours to subtract for all those ferry/maintenance flight I got volunteered for?
Get onto decs and type in hi7y

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Old 09-09-2018 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 3GreenKSNA
Get onto decs and type in hi7y

-Keep the dirty side down
Did that already before I posted
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Old 09-09-2018 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by mketch11
Did that already before I posted
Well...then what's your question? That entry shows exactly what you're looking for.
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Old 09-09-2018 | 07:20 PM
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It’s shows you part 91 time that I flew at envoy? Maybe I missed that part. When I looked it shows company sic time, which matches my total time in the aircraft, along with places to show part 135 and 91k time if I had any, which I don’t. Maybe you aren’t understanding the question
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Old 09-09-2018 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by mketch11
It’s shows you part 91 time that I flew at envoy? Maybe I missed that part. When I looked it shows company sic time, which matches my total time in the aircraft, along with places to show part 135 and 91k time if I had any, which I don’t. Maybe you aren’t understanding the question


Envoy is part 121 only

You don’t need to subtract anything. Enjoy your upgrade. Your complicating things and it won’t work.
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