Attitude
#51
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2016
Posts: 198
I remember being somewhat new, i remember what did it for me.
A reassignment, 3-4hr sit, into a ABQ Turn on my last day from scheduling did it for me. I was expecting a 1 & done. A quick flight into ORD, to then be reassigned (I had even listed for the long commute home to see my family that I had not seen in 5 days (5on2off). Like many others. Nature of the job sometimes and Rsv life.
I don’t mind a reassignment but a 3-4hr sit and then a ABQ turn is special hell. No one to appropriate the trip because maybe no FO wanted to fly with that one CA I guess. I have no clue what the reasoning. But I called scheduling to hear “hey man I’m sorry, we got body, I’ll call you if something shorter comes up.” Ended up being a decent flt & crew, but 5 days straight on company time away from family adds up.
Upon return to ORD last 2 flight home now needed up being full & 2 AA jump-seaters. My 2 days off to be with family turned into 1day off honestly, as I had to use a commuter hotel and fly out early the next morning for “2off”, but what most new guys don’t realize is you may have to on many occasions on your last “day” fly out to base. It’s not really a day off is it??? Since we have to commute early due to full flights & Jumpseat listing wars. So I had to fly out early in that next afternoon after getting home (fly back to work in the afternoon of my last day off), all due to full flights in the evening. All due to proffer results being out the evening prior 4/5pm. All because I was on 4am Pre-assigned RAP (which company does this & has won the pre-assigned 4am RAP 1 battle with the pilots). So 1 night at home after 5 days of working it was for me, and back out to work another 4 days.
I learned to be ****ed off real quick, but learned also to tame it. Double thumbs up to posts above. Only take a few months after IOE to realize the suck of rsv life here! It’s one thing reading it, it’s another living it.
I could not imagine having a newborn and that happening. While on Reserve and being a commuter. If I’m deployed in the military it’s one thing. But I’m not deployed, I’m ‘home’. This job, especially with our Pre&Post bankruptcy formulated Rsv rule and language can and does take a toll on ‘home’ & ‘family’. Line Pilots realize the facts more than prospective NHs because we live it! It’s not really complaining it’s sounding the alarm of truth and reality when potential NH only get feed what marketing they see. This industry can take a toll on family. Just want to make sure people know what they are getting into.
I enjoy the job I do, and know the company I work for will and can do better and will and can be great. I do this job for my family & faith goals (the life I have outside of Aviation). I personally had to make drastic changes to save my family, I made location sacrifices for improved QOL, it’s made a huge difference. I don’t expect others to uproot and do the same as I did, they shouldn’t have to.
A reassignment, 3-4hr sit, into a ABQ Turn on my last day from scheduling did it for me. I was expecting a 1 & done. A quick flight into ORD, to then be reassigned (I had even listed for the long commute home to see my family that I had not seen in 5 days (5on2off). Like many others. Nature of the job sometimes and Rsv life.
I don’t mind a reassignment but a 3-4hr sit and then a ABQ turn is special hell. No one to appropriate the trip because maybe no FO wanted to fly with that one CA I guess. I have no clue what the reasoning. But I called scheduling to hear “hey man I’m sorry, we got body, I’ll call you if something shorter comes up.” Ended up being a decent flt & crew, but 5 days straight on company time away from family adds up.
Upon return to ORD last 2 flight home now needed up being full & 2 AA jump-seaters. My 2 days off to be with family turned into 1day off honestly, as I had to use a commuter hotel and fly out early the next morning for “2off”, but what most new guys don’t realize is you may have to on many occasions on your last “day” fly out to base. It’s not really a day off is it??? Since we have to commute early due to full flights & Jumpseat listing wars. So I had to fly out early in that next afternoon after getting home (fly back to work in the afternoon of my last day off), all due to full flights in the evening. All due to proffer results being out the evening prior 4/5pm. All because I was on 4am Pre-assigned RAP (which company does this & has won the pre-assigned 4am RAP 1 battle with the pilots). So 1 night at home after 5 days of working it was for me, and back out to work another 4 days.
I learned to be ****ed off real quick, but learned also to tame it. Double thumbs up to posts above. Only take a few months after IOE to realize the suck of rsv life here! It’s one thing reading it, it’s another living it.
I could not imagine having a newborn and that happening. While on Reserve and being a commuter. If I’m deployed in the military it’s one thing. But I’m not deployed, I’m ‘home’. This job, especially with our Pre&Post bankruptcy formulated Rsv rule and language can and does take a toll on ‘home’ & ‘family’. Line Pilots realize the facts more than prospective NHs because we live it! It’s not really complaining it’s sounding the alarm of truth and reality when potential NH only get feed what marketing they see. This industry can take a toll on family. Just want to make sure people know what they are getting into.
I enjoy the job I do, and know the company I work for will and can do better and will and can be great. I do this job for my family & faith goals (the life I have outside of Aviation). I personally had to make drastic changes to save my family, I made location sacrifices for improved QOL, it’s made a huge difference. I don’t expect others to uproot and do the same as I did, they shouldn’t have to.
I too enjoy this job and this company, but facts are facts and you either understand that things will happen, or you let it eat you alive and burn out.
All that said, learn the contract inside and out, if you dont know ask someone and expect to get envoyed every once in a while.
#52
Banned
Joined APC: May 2018
Posts: 40
This place is by far the worst place I have ever worked. Constantly seeing bad attitudes, worst schedules ever, poor working conditions and an overall hostile work environment from middle management. Sad part is this place could be good.
#53
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2017
Posts: 1,729
Have you read the PDT threads?
#55
Line Holder
Joined APC: Aug 2018
Posts: 69
There are posts like this in every subforum. I've never seen so many mixed reviews about anything as I've seen on APC.
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