This.

I've been looking forward to coming to Envoy for about a year or so now after finally reaching minimums I'm going into the next class as a cadet. Usually, I just read posts but now I am having second thoughts about coming here because there are fellow pilots on here that decide to post threads bashing some guy with a vlog.

Is this a joke? I really would like to know what it is that makes the pilots on this particular forum so salty about everything, it's very off-putting coming to an airline I'm excited to join just to find pilot's continuously complaining about everything. I don't see this even see this kind of behavior on Mesa's forums, it's pathetic.

I'm not saying that everything about Envoy is peachy perfect, nor am I saying that I am an always "positive vibes" kind of guy. But this kind of negative bull**** has to stop. From what I hear in person, Envoy is still considered a top-tier regional.

It is evident by the fact that we started a thread bashing someone with hopes and dreams to fly for the airlines, just like the rest of us. It is evident that we have a program like a flow that doesn't work in their favor because it is not quick enough. The flow thing isn't even designed to be your only hope to getting into the majors yet there are pilots on here that bash it probably because they can't get in without it (which is fine but respect the process).

Writing on this forum won't do much, I have listed concerns to management and they actually tend to listen to ideas if you take the time to let them know. That is one of the strongest ways to change a company besides complaining on the sidelines.

As to that thread, yes I have met Swayne and he is not as much of a douche as I initially thought he was. But I still would have posted this anyways even if he was.

If there are issues, let's work together as a team. I understand the need to vent, but we can always think together and generate ideas that can make Envoy better than it is instead of getting behind a keyboard and venting to people who are just as powerless as I am to change anything.

 

Envoy’s fine, bud. You’ll enjoy flying with the crews (barring the few usual types that every airline has floating around). A lot of what you see on here is keyboard cowboy stuff that these guys would never say in person. A couple of beverages and a mobile device make the “best” come out in some people.

Also, the entitled bunch tends to hit the forums. They feel like everyone owes them something because reserve lasted more than a month, they didn’t get the plane they wanted, flow is too long for their taste, etc. Always the same b.s.

That said, I have also gotten some pretty useful info from the forums. It just depends which way the wind is blowing that day.

Welcome to the airlines! Enjoy it because it sure beats being a CFI. I never worked harder than when I was flight instructing. Envoy felt like a vacation.

Oh, and they’ll complain that Cadets shouldn’t get top pick in class. Good luck! ;D

 

I’d suggest maybe going to XJT or TSA. They have all the “positive vibes” these days.

 

I think you lost your message.

 

This will be good...

 

You seem more like Skywest material.....maybe you should reconsider coming here.

 

How's that

 

TLTR

Filler

 

Thank you, thats nice to hear, I'm looking forawrd to it!

 

Hmm why is that?