Originally Posted by THKooj (Post 2945507)

Actually I flowed through mid 2018 and I still consider an Envoy pilot an American pilot. It is pretty simple for me. You are hired to be an AA pilot before you get to the pipeline. Envoy flies AA painted planes with NN registrations, have exactly the same uniforms and the same computer system among other things. There is no additional interview or screening after the initial where you are hired at Envoy. A simple departmental transfer is all that happens. Why don't you explain to me how you think you are not American Airlines.

Originally Posted by THKooj (Post 2945507)

Actually I flowed through mid 2018 and I still consider an Envoy pilot an American pilot. It is pretty simple for me. You are hired to be an AA pilot before you get to the pipeline. Envoy flies AA painted planes with NN registrations, have exactly the same uniforms and the same computer system among other things. There is no additional interview or screening after the initial where you are hired at Envoy. A simple departmental transfer is all that happens. Why don't you explain to me how you think you are not American Airlines.

Originally Posted by Captain Kirk (Post 2945519)

Incoming!! 😁

Originally Posted by THKooj (Post 2945507)

Actually I flowed through mid 2018 and I still consider an Envoy pilot an American pilot. It is pretty simple for me. You are hired to be an AA pilot before you get to the pipeline. Envoy flies AA painted planes with NN registrations, have exactly the same uniforms and the same computer system among other things. There is no additional interview or screening after the initial where you are hired at Envoy. A simple departmental transfer is all that happens. Why don't you explain to me how you think you are not American Airlines.

Originally Posted by THKooj (Post 2945507)

Actually I flowed through mid 2018 and I still consider an Envoy pilot an American pilot. It is pretty simple for me. You are hired to be an AA pilot before you get to the pipeline. Envoy flies AA painted planes with NN registrations, have exactly the same uniforms and the same computer system among other things. There is no additional interview or screening after the initial where you are hired at Envoy. A simple departmental transfer is all that happens. Why don't you explain to me how you think you are not American Airlines.

Originally Posted by deraa (Post 2945486)

All looks good, except, welcome to Envoy Air INC. Just to clarify we are a regional airline not a legacy airline. But we have similar uniforms to AA and get to wear the same lanyard.

Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 2945581)

Actually it’s not even the same lanyard. Envoy is required to wear the AA lanyard if a lanyard is worn. Look at the AA pilots. They wear an APA lanyard. Envoy specifies the AA lanyard so if the union tried any kind of solidarity lanyard it would be non compliant and an FM1 violation.

And to add to the list, wings aren’t the same either.

Originally Posted by dera (Post 2945582)

Our FOs wear the same wings as their FAs though!

Originally Posted by ParkingatMIA (Post 2945596)

What everyone seems to forget is we get to wear leather jackets, those “mainline” pilots can’t. So what does that say about AA.



American “The real AA” Eagle > AA