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Old 12-03-2018, 10:46 AM
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Ramping up for LAX.
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Heard from good source.

Emb145/CRJ classes every two weeks

E175 classes every week starting Janurary.
How would that work to prevent people from cherry picking classes and only being available for the 175 classes?

I suppose NH class could get start every week, then bid for slots, and 175 guys would start immediately while everyone else would start on the "off" weeks... Not sure how feasible one class a week would be with Sims, Instructors, and IOE though. How "good" was this source?
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Originally Posted by wiz5422 View Post
Heard from good source.

Emb145/CRJ classes every two weeks

E175 classes every week starting Janurary.
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How would that work to prevent people from cherry picking classes and only being available for the 175 classes?

I suppose NH class could get start every week, then bid for slots, and 175 guys would start immediately while everyone else would start on the "off" weeks... Not sure how feasible one class a week would be with Sims, Instructors, and IOE though. How "good" was this source?
Fake News.

Not going to happen. They don’t have the capacity. They are adding two more seats to each 175 class. They can’t magically DOUBLE training by having a class every week. They are struggling to do what they are on the 175 side.
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Old 12-03-2018, 05:11 PM
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Fake News.

Not going to happen. They don’t have the capacity. They are adding two more seats to each 175 class. They can’t magically DOUBLE training by having a class every week. They are struggling to do what they are on the 175 side.
We shall see come January...........
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Originally Posted by wiz5422 View Post
We shall see come January...........
You are right about one thing, we shall see.

Having a class every week would just mean more work teaching Indoc. Envoy won’t hire more than 500 FOs next year. Roughly 40 a month or 20 per class every other week. Not that what Envoy does makes sense, but the math just doesn’t bear that out.
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Well, I know what Envoy isn't going to do. They aren't going to displace any of their hundreds of surplus of 145/CRJ pilots to staff the new jets. They know offering 175 slots in class is a powerful recruiting tool, and aside from a minority who came specifically for Miami, every FO is praying for a 175 slot.
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Well, I know what Envoy isn't going to do. They aren't going to displace any of their hundreds of surplus of 145/CRJ pilots to staff the new jets. They know offering 175 slots in class is a powerful recruiting tool, and aside from a minority who came specifically for Miami, every FO is praying for a 175 slot.
Nah, I think those guys are hoping for 175s in MIA.
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Originally Posted by NoValueAviator View Post
Well, I know what Envoy isn't going to do. They aren't going to displace any of their hundreds of surplus of 145/CRJ pilots to staff the new jets. They know offering 175 slots in class is a powerful recruiting tool, and aside from a minority who came specifically for Miami, every FO is praying for a 175 slot.
There is no way of getting around it. They will have to run a displacement at some point. People's feeling are going to get hurt and it's going to suck for some and be good for others.
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There is no way of getting around it. They will have to run a displacement at some point. People's feeling are going to get hurt and it's going to suck for some and be good for others.
I don't know, recruitment still seems strong, or at least as strong as they want it to be right now. Lots of FO's getting ready to upgrade off the 175, thus allowing more seats to open up.

My thought is, they may boost a bonus or work an improved contract rather than displace anyone. That is super costly and disruptive to their narrative in the publics eye, although this is Envoy so....

I do agree however, that we are going to have a huge surplus of 175 FO seats open that will need filled. Maybe there is some truth to the class every week rumor on it.
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Originally Posted by Cyio View Post
I don't know, recruitment still seems strong, or at least as strong as they want it to be right now. Lots of FO's getting ready to upgrade off the 175, thus allowing more seats to open up.

My thought is, they may boost a bonus or work an improved contract rather than displace anyone. That is super costly and disruptive to their narrative in the publics eye, although this is Envoy so....

I do agree however, that we are going to have a huge surplus of 175 FO seats open that will need filled. Maybe there is some truth to the class every week rumor on it.
Supposedly another CPT room being added for the heavy drivers as well as the schedules being expanded.
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