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Old 11-19-2018 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Houpilot2001
It's my understanding, you lose the FO bonus; in the terms of, losing your daily gain rate. The current bonus paid out 100% if you made it 50% of the way through the quarter(45 days). People who just got the upgrade on the last vacancy, should have had about 42 of the 45 days needed to hit max bonus. Which means they should be prorated 3 days less pay than max payout.
The retention bonus stops the moment you finish IOE.

This was sent out months ago via email

"For newly minted Captains that finish IOE within the current FO Retention Window:

If you finish on or after April 20, 2018 – you will get the full $2,500 because you served > 50 days as a First Officer in this window (3/1 – 5/31)

If you finished before April 20, 2018, you will receive a prorated bonus based on days served. (~$50 per day served)

You must be in active service to be eligible for all or any part of the above bonus."
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Old 11-19-2018 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Houpilot2001
It's my understanding, you lose the FO bonus; in the terms of, losing your daily gain rate. The current bonus paid out 100% if you made it 50% of the way through the quarter(45 days). People who just got the upgrade on the last vacancy, should have had about 42 of the 45 days needed to hit max bonus. Which means they should be prorated 3 days less pay than max payout.

That is correct. F/O's who were awarded the upgrade in July after the LOA was signed and still haven't completed the fed ride are still getting the bonus with the next one slated to come at the end of December.
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Old 11-19-2018 | 06:54 PM
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So anybody knows when the current / next retention bonus period runs? it's been a while since the last union email covering this subject.
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Old 11-19-2018 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by dragongoliath
So anybody knows when the current / next retention bonus period runs? it's been a while since the last union email covering this subject.
Next payout is in December.
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Old 11-20-2018 | 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by rondonq1
Felicidades in leaving envoy. Good time now to be leaving. I have some sources still at envoy and hearing adjustment to the flow. Company will be asking for relief from agreement for temporary period. Whole problem is captain shortage. Too many FO sitting around but not near enough captain. With schedule AAG want envoy to fly, it present serious problem in captain staffing. my advise to all is follow this poster lead and get out while you can. envoy known for bad working conditions and for ignoring agreements.
What a pathetic loser post. Sounds like you are just jealous that you either were forced to leave or left for some other reason like you went to some scrappy LCC and will not flow to AA. Envoy is flowing more than ever before and you just missed out.
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Old 11-20-2018 | 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by DanRoman
Next payout is in December.
I thought it was January. Didn't we get on in September making December the end of the following 3 month window? For some reason I thought there was a delay.
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Old 11-20-2018 | 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Cyio
I thought it was January. Didn't we get on in September making December the end of the following 3 month window? For some reason I thought there was a delay.
Looking back over my pay stubs, the next one should be paid on December 22. December, March, June, September, usually on or about the 22nd of those months.
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Old 11-20-2018 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Cyio
I thought it was January. Didn't we get on in September making December the end of the following 3 month window? For some reason I thought there was a delay.
The payout is a month after it finalizes. So we got paid in September for the June-Aug period. The December payout runs Sept-Nov.
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Old 11-20-2018 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by dragongoliath
The retention bonus stops the moment you finish IOE.

This was sent out months ago via email

"For newly minted Captains that finish IOE within the current FO Retention Window:

If you finish on or after April 20, 2018 – you will get the full $2,500 because you served > 50 days as a First Officer in this window (3/1 – 5/31)

If you finished before April 20, 2018, you will receive a prorated bonus based on days served. (~$50 per day served)

You must be in active service to be eligible for all or any part of the above bonus."

That's what I thought as well. But when flying with a union rep I was told that this was not the case. Something happened when the LOA was signed and this was left out and thus resulting in the FO bonus stopping the day of the award.

Also, I think the email you are referring to was sent out before the LOA was signed. It was supposed to continue post LOA but the company felt that the FOs would essentially be double dipping and axed it.


Im gonna do some more digging.
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Old 11-20-2018 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Houpilot2001
The payout is a month after it finalizes. So we got paid in September for the June-Aug period. The December payout runs Sept-Nov.
OK, thank you for clarifying.
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