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Old 10-25-2021 | 07:33 AM
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Considering a lateral move to envoy. What’s the wait to hold DFW either as FO or CA?
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Old 10-25-2021 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Swarley
Considering a lateral move to envoy. What’s the wait to hold DFW either as FO or CA?
Spirit has a DFW base. Just sayin'.
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Old 10-25-2021 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Swarley
Considering a lateral move to envoy. What’s the wait to hold DFW either as FO or CA?
Should be able to hold DFW on either the 145 or 175 with either new hire assignment, or if not offered initially on the next bid, which have been every three months. As captain, DFW is most senior, with 175 considerably more so. Look through the vacancy thread for the most recent numbers.

That being said, I think I would exhaust all possibilities before I did a lateral move. Envoy won’t be upgrading low seniority pilots to captain any time soon again and life as an ultra low seniority captain is a special kind of hell, though living in base very slightly tempers it.
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Old 10-25-2021 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by pitchattitude
Should be able to hold DFW on either the 145 or 175 with either new hire assignment, or if not offered initially on the next bid, which have been every three months. As captain, DFW is most senior, with 175 considerably more so. Look through the vacancy thread for the most recent numbers.

That being said, I think I would exhaust all possibilities before I did a lateral move. Envoy won’t be upgrading low seniority pilots to captain any time soon again and life as an ultra low seniority captain is a special kind of hell, though living in base very slightly tempers it.
I have apps out everywhere. Currently just considering all options, a lateral move although being worst case scenario, is an option. There is no hell currently worse than being a Mesa CRJ FO.
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Old 10-25-2021 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Swarley
I have apps out everywhere. Currently just considering all options, a lateral move although being worst case scenario, is an option. There is no hell currently worse than being a Mesa CRJ FO.
Eh, I do know those who are. Quite honestly they seem happier than at ENY, especially those on the 145.
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Old 10-25-2021 | 04:15 PM
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I will also add that giving up seniority anywhere, short of someplace that is stagnant or shrinking, once you’ve got a line of any kind is really something to consider. Do you really want to go through another initial to sit reserve for another six months or so?
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Old 10-25-2021 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by pitchattitude
I will also add that giving up seniority anywhere, short of someplace that is stagnant or shrinking, once you’ve got a line of any kind is really something to consider. Do you really want to go through another initial to sit reserve for another six months or so?
Totally agree! Hang tight, things are moving fast!
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Old 10-25-2021 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by pitchattitude
I could see that if they mixed and matched who from which group of which date was in the class. Again, makes it very hard to know where you might stand. Mix that in with an ever changing number of each airframe and you are really rolling the dice, or playing Russian roulette.
Chances of 175 ORD out of training? How long is Captain upgrade seniority wise?
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Old 10-25-2021 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Fly4FunAA
Chances of 175 ORD out of training? How long is Captain upgrade seniority wise?
1. Invest a couple of minutes to flip through the pages. This is addressed just about daily - if you get 175, ORD is a junior base. See above regarding getting the 175.
2. About 55%-ish on the seniority list currently for 175. I imagine it will trend to 47-50ish eventually and 145 more junior. "How long" is a function of movement of the said seniority list. No flow no newhires - long. Flow and newhires - less long.
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Old 10-25-2021 | 09:01 PM
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It’s 1am and I can’t sleep. Too much going on around here at home and I decided to read this site…

after 20 years in this job let me explain..

ALL REGIONALS SUCK… I was at one for 8.5 years.
it was supposedly a “good one”. It wasn’t until I moved on that I realized it was terrible.

it’s a stepping stone. Hang out and move on. It’s a requirement. I hate the “paying your dues” line but it’s true. Don’t jump around. Put in your time and move on.
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