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Old 10-21-2021 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by gbo2
I know. But I was in the class. I know for a fact a few non cadets picked ahead of some cadets.
What was this based on then, because this is not the way things have been done? Furlough returning? Those that have been to “orientation” before the hire date of the cadets? I don’t think the orientation program has been going long enough for that to be a thing and I also can’t see ENY letting someone who has been to orientation pass on a class date when offered.
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Old 10-21-2021 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by pitchattitude
What was this based on then, because this is not the way things have been done? Furlough returning? Those that have been to “orientation” before the hire date of the cadets? I don’t think the orientation program has been going long enough for that to be a thing and I also can’t see ENY letting someone who has been to orientation pass on a class date when offered.
We had people from 3 different orientation classes. So regardless of your cadet status, it went based on the date of orientation.
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Old 10-21-2021 | 02:35 PM
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They didn’t change procedures, some people just got envoyed
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Old 10-21-2021 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by gbo2
We had people from 3 different orientation classes. So regardless of your cadet status, it went based on the date of orientation.
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Originally Posted by johnboat
They didn’t change procedures, some people just got envoyed
So did they do by orientation date and within that by cadet/121/age? Either way, definitely throws multiple wrenches into trying to figure out where you might stand for those thinking they want to be Envoyed, er, uh, I mean want to come to Envoy.
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Old 10-21-2021 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by gbo2
I know of quite a few people that picked first ahead of cadets in Monday’s class.
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I know. But I was in the class. I know for a fact a few non cadets picked ahead of some cadets.
Originally Posted by gbo2
We had people from 3 different orientation classes. So regardless of your cadet status, it went based on the date of orientation.
OK, so prior 121 generally picks middle. But if some weird scenario unfold JUST right, he might pick first. And if some weird scenario unfolded JUST wrong, he might pick last.

I stand by the intent of what I said and have no idea what the intent of yours was... except maybe a little bitterness due missing out on the shiny jet you thought you were gonna get. Welcome to Envoy.
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Old 10-21-2021 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by highfarfast
OK, so prior 121 generally picks middle. But if some weird scenario unfold JUST right, he might pick first. And if some weird scenario unfolded JUST wrong, he might pick last.

I stand by the intent of what I said and have no idea what the intent of yours was... except maybe a little bitterness due missing out on the shiny jet you thought you were gonna get. Welcome to Envoy.
I could see that if they mixed and matched who from which group of which date was in the class. Again, makes it very hard to know where you might stand. Mix that in with an ever changing number of each airframe and you are really rolling the dice, or playing Russian roulette.
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Old 10-21-2021 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by highfarfast
OK, so prior 121 generally picks middle. But if some weird scenario unfold JUST right, he might pick first. And if some weird scenario unfolded JUST wrong, he might pick last.

I stand by the intent of what I said and have no idea what the intent of yours was... except maybe a little bitterness due missing out on the shiny jet you thought you were gonna get. Welcome to Envoy.
I wasn’t a cadet so I didn’t expect the 175. It’s just from talking to people in class. People have said there is more movement on the 145 is that true? Or does it depend on base
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Old 10-21-2021 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by gbo2
I wasn’t a cadet so I didn’t expect the 175. It’s just from talking to people in class. People have said there is more movement on the 145 is that true? Or does it depend on base
They just wanted to make you feel better.
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Old 10-22-2021 | 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Fly4FunAA
Debating between jumping ship at RPA and switching to Envoy before I start military pilot training in the spring. I’m an FO currently at RPA with good seniority, but I’m coming back off of military leave and training is backed up. I want to go to American and the flow, bonuses, and ORD/MIA bases at Envoy are attractive. I’m typed in the 175 so hoping that might help get me the 175 if I decide to come. Pros Cons? Worth staying at Republic if I want to get to American down the road or will my military time make it irrelevant to need to go to a WO? And are the current FO bonuses worth it?
Breeze is hiring and they do give preference to your type rating and you will fly the E190/195 that is until you fly the A220. The pay is better too.
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Old 10-22-2021 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Naviator
Breeze is hiring and they do give preference to your type rating and you will fly the E190/195 that is until you fly the A220. The pay is better too.
Of course the pay is better, but still woefully low for mainline aircraft types.
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