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Old 08-29-2021 | 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by But seriously
They absolutely need more. We are already understaffed and are losing WAY more than 20/mo.
I have no idea if they are hiring less than 20 because of lack of applicants or some bottleneck in training. I have no idea if they are really only hiring 20/month for that matter.
For a CJO holder, should I look at that as a good thing? I'm trying to make the decision based on what will get me 121 PIC the fastest.

In theory would understaffing effect reserve time?
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Old 08-30-2021 | 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by But seriously
They absolutely need more. We are already understaffed and are losing WAY more than 20/mo.
I have no idea if they are hiring less than 20 because of lack of applicants or some bottleneck in training. I have no idea if they are really only hiring 20/month for that matter.
My understanding is that there is a training backlog, that’s why the classes have been small. We have new-hires lined up 2 months out, minimum. Right now they are only taking cadets, but that might change soon.
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Old 08-30-2021 | 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Skip0927
Coming to envoy has been an awful decision that has been brutally painful, financially ruinous and is tearing my family apart. Go anywhere other than this place. Working here is probably on par with Air Koryo, the national airline of North Korea.
Brutal but entirely accurate
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Old 08-30-2021 | 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by citxls
Brutal but entirely accurate

And extremely dramatic….


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Old 08-30-2021 | 04:10 AM
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Originally Posted by UncreativeUser
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Exactly. Air Koryo has crew meals.
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Old 08-30-2021 | 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by citxls
Brutal but entirely accurate
Absolutely hilarious, but I don’t see this original post. To the original post, I would say it sounds like your personal situation is mid air collision itself. Nothing that ENY has advertised could cause “financial ruin”. If you came to ENY, you must have had a reason. I’m not saying ENY is by any means great as I have done my fair share of bashing but if it was as bad as you say, you should have quit long ago.

So much of ANY place is whether it fits for YOU. One man’s trash is another ones treasure and all.
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Old 08-30-2021 | 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by UncreativeUser
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If he’s been on jr reserve for the past two years, you only get 75 guarantee and maybe some per diem. If he’s commuting on top of that, he might not be exaggerating
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Old 08-30-2021 | 08:33 AM
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so what’s the stigma about not going to envoy. why is the training so backlogged. and i’ve heard from multiple people the AA wants envoy to go away is this true?


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Old 08-30-2021 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by jcool734
so what’s the stigma about not going to envoy. why is the training so backlogged. and i’ve heard from multiple people the AA wants envoy to go away is this true?


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AA just got done buying us new airplanes. Envoy is covering flying in 3 other hubs.

Envoy isn’t going anywhere.

Training backlog is because of management’s inability to plan and spool up our training department in time for COVID recovery. The complaints here mostly stem from a management that reacts rather than plans ahead and below average reserve rules.

Otherwise the pay here is at the top end of the regional level, we have desirable bases, a large fleet, career progression, commuter hotels, and good AA flight benefits. And despite what you read on here, I think most people are in fact happy here.
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Old 08-30-2021 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Chato
If he’s been on jr reserve for the past two years, you only get 75 guarantee and maybe some per diem. If he’s commuting on top of that, he might not be exaggerating
May not be able to make much extra, but aside from a bit of per diem that’s not much less than Envoy advertised. Suck, absolutely, “financial ruin”, hardly. Definitely melodramatic OP.
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