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Old 05-04-2019 | 05:35 AM
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Ohh the irony. We are all waiting on that pay raise and what did we get ? A niceee

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Pay cut. Lol
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Old 05-04-2019 | 05:50 AM
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have you guys seen the cleaners sprinting down the aisle spraying that Fabreeze-like stuff over each shoulder yet?

I felt bad but I’m sure mgmt would be pleased.
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Old 05-04-2019 | 06:15 AM
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Write it up.
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Old 05-04-2019 | 07:18 AM
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This is soooooo sad.... Less than 30 turn times on the 175, or CRJ (with pax waiting on valet bags), no time for catering or cleaners, (still waiting on fuel), no time to clean lavs, (still waiting on air start cart), no time for anything (waiting on push crew). What kind of low budget operation are we turning in to!?!?

Delta has it right. They sell an "experience". We herd cattle.

I would much rather take a 5-10 minute delay on an impossible 23 minute turn time, and provide a presentable product.

I don't get the obsession with T-0. Block out with a 5 minute delay on an overblocked flight, make up 15 minutes reroute, block in 10 mins early. Still blows a gasket over 5 min blocking out delay.
Block out 6 minutes early, wait 20 minutes for push crew to unscrew something, ramp and alley is blocked for another 10 minutes, get jerked around all over the place reroute so add 10 more minutes, land, go to box and wait on a gate for another 30 minutes, ramps is blocked, one more lap around the airport, finally block in a total of 1 hour 10 minutes late. No one says a word...

Oh well.
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Old 05-04-2019 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by griff312
This is soooooo sad.... Less than 30 turn times on the 175, or CRJ (with pax waiting on valet bags), no time for catering or cleaners, (still waiting on fuel), no time to clean lavs, (still waiting on air start cart), no time for anything (waiting on push crew). What kind of low budget operation are we turning in to!?!?

Delta has it right. They sell an "experience". We herd cattle.

I would much rather take a 5-10 minute delay on an impossible 23 minute turn time, and provide a presentable product.

I don't get the obsession with T-0. Block out with a 5 minute delay on an overblocked flight, make up 15 minutes reroute, block in 10 mins early. Still blows a gasket over 5 min blocking out delay.
Block out 6 minutes early, wait 20 minutes for push crew to unscrew something, ramp and alley is blocked for another 10 minutes, get jerked around all over the place reroute so add 10 more minutes, land, go to box and wait on a gate for another 30 minutes, ramps is blocked, one more lap around the airport, finally block in a total of 1 hour 10 minutes late. No one says a word...

Oh well.
This whole obsession with turn times actually hurts the company (including AAG) performance numbers and is something AAG controls. They would be so much better off to just make outstation turns about 40-45 and hubs 50-60. Get everything done and out on time and if the previous flight IS a a few minutes late it doesn’t cascade the rest of the day until the next lull. It not like planes and crews are always running full tilt. There usually is some point where plane and crew has several hours to sit. Just spread it out a bit. I realize some of the extended plane sits are for maintenance, but still. Yes, we don’t get paid during that time, but I would rather have an extra ten minutes and not be rushed taking a c**p, eating or just getting a coffee so I can get everything else done as well.
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Old 05-04-2019 | 08:14 AM
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Doug Parker strikes again.
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Old 05-04-2019 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by pitchattitude
This whole obsession with turn times actually hurts the company (including AAG) performance numbers and is something AAG controls. They would be so much better off to just make outstation turns about 40-45 and hubs 50-60. Get everything done and out on time and if the previous flight IS a a few minutes late it doesn’t cascade the rest of the day until the next lull. It not like planes and crews are always running full tilt. There usually is some point where plane and crew has several hours to sit. Just spread it out a bit. I realize some of the extended plane sits are for maintenance, but still. Yes, we don’t get paid during that time, but I would rather have an extra ten minutes and not be rushed taking a c**p, eating or just getting a coffee so I can get everything else done as well.
You guys don't understand, the less time on a gate, the more time the planes can be making money. That's why ole dougie is the CEO and we're a bunch of peons.
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Old 05-04-2019 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Jamesthunder
You guys don't understand, the less time on a gate, the more time the planes can be making money. That's why ole dougie is the CEO and we're a bunch of peons.
I thought he was ceo because AA management all left for United after they saw bad things coming with us airways...also he has jail time so they promoted him.
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Old 05-04-2019 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by 3GreenKSNA
Not sure how that's even possible. Both inbound and outbound planes full, a couple of wheel chairs, running out of overhead bin space, all of these can blow the 30 minute turn time out the window.

Other than a new tagline does anyone know what the definition is of this new "optimized boarding?"

-Keep the dirty side down
Yeah man, 25 min turn in JAN.
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Old 05-04-2019 | 10:12 AM
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It seems like the change is working as intended to me. They wanted to cut pay at Envoy, so they reduced the bonus and reduced the likelihood they would have to pay it. Mission accomplished.
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