< 6 Year Flow
 

From the Envoy Pilot Recruitment's FB page today:
https://i.imgur.com/iDEX5uz.png

From the outdated February 2019 interactive seniority list:
https://i.imgur.com/usz9gCG.jpg

8.89 years (and higher now)
I would LOVE to see how the company "projects" it's estimated flow times. It's the only reason people still keep coming here and it's built on a mountain of lies.

LOL.


ALPA's worst guesses are better than Envoy's facts.

It really is blatant false advertising.

8.9 is just as false.

If you are senior to me: 8.9 makes sense. Go to Spirit, et al.

If you're junior: Look, there is no way that 200-ish lifers are going to suddenly change their minds and flow. Obviously, we need to see the methodology behind both recruiting and ALPA numbers to be sure, but the truth is probably somewhere between both figures. Weight could likely be given to the recruiting number simply because their formula probably eliminates projected lifers (whether they've declined already or by age) from the get go.

Gotta play the long game, but also keep your options open.

Actually, it’s pretty easy to see the union’s method. Just look at the spreadsheet for interactive seniority list. AND it DOES account for the lifers staying put. What it doesn’t account for is attrition, which speeds flow, nor does it account for months where American hires little or no pilots, which slows flow.

I deleted it because I thought the irony might be lost on new hires :rolleyes:

"and earn a great salary", since when is one of the lowest salaries amongst the other regionals a great salary - gotta love the word games ...

Perhaps they are starting to feel the pinch. While I don't have FB I would love to see the replies people are posting. Hopefully calling them out on their lies.

I saw some comments calling them out but they seem to have mysteriously disappeared, almost as if they were deleted or hidden by their social media manager.